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I respectfully disagree with you ICB. Had the KO happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been TKOed. Watch again the fight and tell me that I'm mistaken.
Thats not what i was saying i was saying he was a tad lucky he caught Juan Manuel Marquez cold. And up until he got caught he was outboxing Manny Pacquiao easily in that first round, and take away that round and it was a clear cut win for Juan Manuel Marquez. I think Juan Manuel Marquez was suprised at the quickness of Manny Pacquiao and he didn't except to get blitzed like that in the first round hence why he was caught cold.
Marquez knows manny is superfast. he was not caught cold and unaware. It happened during their first and second fight. Marquez is aware of Manny's speed.You yourself have accepted that you made a mistake in your scoring ICB. You said it was difficult to judge who won after watching it again. So it was not a clear cut win for Marquez even without the first round.

It was clear that while doing the RBR during that time you were having some clear bias towards Marquez, ICB. You must admit it.

I'd go for the judges' scorecards then. Manny Pac won that fight and history will judge it like that like the fight between Diaz and Morales, MAB vs Morales, etc.
I think you got mixed up Bruce i said the 2nd fight was more closer than i thought not the 1st fight my opinion has never changed on the 1st fight and Marquez was suprised by Pacquiao's speed in the 1st fight how can you say he wasn't ? it took him atleast 3 rounds to adjust to Pacquiao's speed and i don't care what the judges had it there normally wrong in alot of close fights i have my opinion and my opinion is that Marquez won both fights.