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Joe is funny really... If i remember when RJJ lost to Johnson & Tarver 1-2 years ago, Joe says he has no business fighting him coz he is a spent force or something like that. He also elaborate that there is nothing to gain from beating RJJ because he is irrelevant and he is after only those other big names. So why fight now? Seems like Joe loves to kick oldies arse.. Some of you say Pavlik is a hype job and has a weak chin according to Joe... well he maybe a product of a little hype(according to haters) but he is not a spent force or a has been and most of all he is not a 40+ year old fighter... This kid can punch and knock someone out. He went up thru the ranks the hard way. Joe can say anything he wants against this kid but he will always be remembered as a fighter who fights in obscure during his prime and went only against the big name when they are past their prime (as of this time and it may change who knows).

He fights and work under Frank Warren all his career, right? And it came from Frank Warrens mouth after the Khan fight that he is matching his fighters carefully that he is to blame if his fighter fails... take note... he match his fighters only to those who are known lesser or zero risk opponent then develop and hype them up and wait for the right time to conquer as the case of Joe himself. Everything about Warrens activity as a matchmaker was exposed after KHAN failed. He wants Khan to develop like the way Joe has by fighting unknown and to have an unblemish record.. and what happen no luck this time. My point here is that Joe was a product of hype himself and he got an unblemished record coz he never fought a significant fight until recently. His records don't lie.. I don't belittle his achievements but the way he belittle Pavliks achievements is ridiculous.. Compare what he achieved when he was at the same age of Pavlik right now. Pavlik of 25 yr old is already a lineal champ at MW, i dont think it happens by accident. What did Joe achieve when he was 25? still fighting bums i think or fighting past their prime or spent force if we use his vocabulary... I don't dislike Joe but the way he is acting and saying recently makes me laugh...

peace..
Nice theory but wrong. If you were correct then Warren would never have put 'HIS' fighter Nigel Benn in with Gerald McClellan.

As for your 25 test? huh did I miss something? Pavlik beat Taylor - and? Who the fuck is Taylor? Joe while beating nobodies did beat Eubank who even at that stage is better than Jermain. Oh Yes Pavlik beat Lockett - Joes sparring partner.
facts mate facts.. Joe fought Eubank if im not mistaken last quarter of 97 (he is on the decline and not a prime version).. that makes Joe past 25 year old... And as of Frank Warren, well i may be wrong but come on he said it himself i didn't invent it. He says he match his fighters carefully... you draw the line there... What does that mean... and to answer that look at his fighters record.. Records don't lie... peace bro..

For Pavlik, man he beat the man who beat the man of the division... Taylor beat Hopkins twice.. and mind you he beat a 3 years younger version of Hopkins (than the time Joe beat Hopkins).. Now tell me who the FUCK TAYLOR IS? Comparing Taylor against Eubank is plain ridiculous to begin with.. Better compare them by the time Joe fought Eubank then Pavlik against Taylor..

As for the Locket issue.. Pavlik did what he is supposed to do... Knock the bum out.. Again im not discrediting Joes achievements but comparing it to the fighter he loves to discredit as a possible opponent... If Pavlik can't past Hopkins then i might change my mind regarding him but until then i wait and see..