want to test a little theory

[Trainer Monkey]

ok guys, on this forum and on other sites i see a lot of people descrediting certain fighters resumes and credentials, for example iv seen many people claim that Hopkins resume consists of blown up welters or that calzaghes best wins are over old and/or over hyped fighters

basically i think that its possible to discredit to any fighters reputation and resume in one way or another with maybe the exception of a couple like SRR and maybe Ali ,

so to test this i want people to post a fighter who they think is an ATG and has a brilliant resume , and then to see if anyone else can give logical thought out reasons as to why they are not so great

Well i could downgrade Muhammad Ali easily i thought he lost to Jimmy Young, Ken Norton x2, Earnie Shavers, draw with Doug Jones. Infact you could make an argument that Ali could have 10 losses on his record then would people consider him so great ? no doubt Ali done alot for the sport and was a very smart fighter with alot of strong attributes but i think he is overrated. And he also did struggle with alot of lesser fighters aswell far too many times IMO.

Why did I just know youd go straight for Ali?
Oh yeah,you hate Ali
Truly overated,Im watching Lacy/Wiggins right now,Lacy is rubbish

[ICB]

ok guys, on this forum and on other sites i see a lot of people descrediting certain fighters resumes and credentials, for example iv seen many people claim that Hopkins resume consists of blown up welters or that calzaghes best wins are over old and/or over hyped fighters

basically i think that its possible to discredit to any fighters reputation and resume in one way or another with maybe the exception of a couple like SRR and maybe Ali ,

so to test this i want people to post a fighter who they think is an ATG and has a brilliant resume , and then to see if anyone else can give logical thought out reasons as to why they are not so great

Well i could downgrade Muhammad Ali easily i thought he lost to Jimmy Young, Ken Norton x2, Earnie Shavers, draw with Doug Jones. Infact you could make an argument that Ali could have 10 losses on his record then would people consider him so great ? no doubt Ali done alot for the sport and was a very smart fighter with alot of strong attributes but i think he is overrated. And he also did struggle with alot of lesser fighters aswell far too many times IMO.

Why did I just know youd go straight for Ali?
Oh yeah,you hate Ali
Truly overated,Im watching Lacy/Wiggins right now,Lacy is rubbish

Does it matter who i pick ? if you can't handle your favorite fighter taking criticism then don't go on threads like this end of. The whole point of this thread is to give out logical responses, and try and say why an ATG fighter wasn't as great as people thought, i gave out a logical answer which was the whole point of this thread, just like POB done the same with Roy Jones who is one of my favorite fighters, but i didn't pick him up on it did i ? because thats the whole point of this thread.

[Trainer Monkey]

Well i could downgrade Muhammad Ali easily i thought he lost to Jimmy Young, Ken Norton x2, Earnie Shavers, draw with Doug Jones. Infact you could make an argument that Ali could have 10 losses on his record then would people consider him so great ? no doubt Ali done alot for the sport and was a very smart fighter with alot of strong attributes but i think he is overrated. And he also did struggle with alot of lesser fighters aswell far too many times IMO.

Why did I just know youd go straight for Ali?
Oh yeah,you hate Ali
Truly overated,Im watching Lacy/Wiggins right now,Lacy is rubbish

Does it matter who i pick ? if you can't handle your favorite fighter taking criticism then don't go on threads like this end of. The whole point of this thread is to give out logical responses, and try and say why an ATG fighter wasn't as great as people thought, i gave out a logical answer which was the whole point of this thread, just like POB done the same with Roy Jones who is one of my favorite fighters, but i didn't pick him up on it did i ? because thats the whole point of this thread.

I knew youd go for Ali first and foremost
Roy Jones is slightly over rated,but its not %100 his fault,the divisions he fought in were rubbish