I'm gonna piss people off but here's the word on Berto...

[bcollins]

Cool dude JT is going to come in here and start throwing Furnitue around

I honestly think he has a good chance of stopping Forbes,I like Forbes,class act and decent fighter..........at Lightweight.Imo, The Oscar fight was a showcase type fight for Oscar and The Berto fight will be his "coming out party" against a past Champion,Lampley.....get your pom-poms ready

Nah, JT's been measured of late and for the most part we agree...

JT knows where I stand with this kid.

Here it is...

He has immense potential.

He has great speed...

He has good power...

But he's faced no one.



I WANT him to prove me wrong or he will just be another Lacy... Floundering(now THAT is gonna make JT throw some furniture around)

The great thing is that, with a belt, he'll probably get a chance to prove you wrong fairly soon. Even the gatekeepers at WW are dangerous

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Cool dude JT is going to come in here and start throwing Furnitue around

I honestly think he has a good chance of stopping Forbes,I like Forbes,class act and decent fighter..........at Lightweight.Imo, The Oscar fight was a showcase type fight for Oscar and The Berto fight will be his "coming out party" against a past Champion,Lampley.....get your pom-poms ready

Nah, JT's been measured of late and for the most part we agree...

JT knows where I stand with this kid.

Here it is...

He has immense potential.

He has great speed...

He has good power...

But he's faced no one.



I WANT him to prove me wrong or he will just be another Lacy... Floundering(now THAT is gonna make JT throw some furniture around)

The great thing is that, with a belt, he'll probably get a chance to prove you wrong fairly soon. Even the gatekeepers at WW are dangerous

I know that's right!

I hope it's right...

I hope he does.

That D's been getting better but I hope he doesn't hit the Lacy wall...

Where potential and loses meet.

[Taeth]

Nah, JT's been measured of late and for the most part we agree...

JT knows where I stand with this kid.

Here it is...

He has immense potential.

He has great speed...

He has good power...

But he's faced no one.



I WANT him to prove me wrong or he will just be another Lacy... Floundering(now THAT is gonna make JT throw some furniture around)

The great thing is that, with a belt, he'll probably get a chance to prove you wrong fairly soon. Even the gatekeepers at WW are dangerous

I know that's right!

I hope it's right...

I hope he does.

That D's been getting better but I hope he doesn't hit the Lacy wall...

Where potential and loses meet.

He is totally different then Lacy, When Lacy was meeting the same caliber fighters that Berto is now, he was having tough grueling fights, where his superior athleticism was winning out for him, but he was getting hit a lot, he was in control, but not dominating fights. Berto has been dominating every fight he has been in, he hasn't even had to switch gears or really put forth his best effort. We haven't even seen half the stuff he is capable off, he has the best handspeed at WW, he has great footspeed that he doens't always use, and he can throw combinations very, very well. Just give him time to calm down a little in the ring.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The great thing is that, with a belt, he'll probably get a chance to prove you wrong fairly soon. Even the gatekeepers at WW are dangerous

I know that's right!

I hope it's right...

I hope he does.

That D's been getting better but I hope he doesn't hit the Lacy wall...

Where potential and loses meet.

He is totally different then Lacy, When Lacy was meeting the same caliber fighters that Berto is now, he was having tough grueling fights, where his superior athleticism was winning out for him, but he was getting hit a lot, he was in control, but not dominating fights. Berto has been dominating every fight he has been in, he hasn't even had to switch gears or really put forth his best effort. We haven't even seen half the stuff he is capable off, he has the best handspeed at WW, he has great footspeed that he doens't always use, and he can throw combinations very, very well. Just give him time to calm down a little in the ring.

Teath, read my first thread... I said career wise that's where I think he'll end up... I think that the way they fight is two different worlds.

But other then not reding my post...

You're right!

[Taeth]

I did read your post, but what I am saying is, there were bread crumbs signaling his cataclysmic failure all along in Lacy's career that we were all to blind to see until it was too late. Berto has none of those bread crumbs, not because of style, but because he is way better then Lacy, he hits harder p4p, he as fast with his hands as anyone who has ever foughten, he is getting difficult to hit, he is a big strong guy, and he moves well when he does it. Where Lacy didn't take use of his handspeed or athleticism, instead he would just throw haymakers, and hope he could stop his opponent, Berto is following a jab, working on his fundamentals, improving each fight, and he is learning how to truly use his speed to set up opponents with it, I would like him to change tempo a little bit more, but once he starts throw slower punches to lull opponents into false security from time to time he will be an offensive monster we will not seen since Roy Jones was in his prime, we won't ever see the same evasive skills, but offensively Berto could easily become a legend.