Khan derailed – Echoes of the Prince ?

[Shamrock]

When Naz lost he was one of the biggest names in world boxing,won 3 or 4 world belts at featherweight,highest paid featherwight in the world,a proven mega star.


When Khan lost he was one the best lightweighs in Britain.



So no,there is no echoes of the Prince IMO.

Okay go back and read it again... the comparison I'm making is not as a fighter it's as a person.

Oh and Naseem could have could have achieved so much more had he not lost the plot, sacked his trainer and started to believe that he could walk through everyone. Hamed has a very good legacy but Legend - not IMO.

[porkypara]

When Naz lost he was one of the biggest names in world boxing,won 3 or 4 world belts at featherweight,highest paid featherwight in the world,a proven mega star.


When Khan lost he was one the best lightweighs in Britain.



So no,there is no echoes of the Prince IMO.

Okay go back and read it again... the comparison I'm making is not as a fighter it's as a person.

Oh and Naseem could have could have achieved so much more had he not lost the plot, sacked his trainer and started to believe that he could walk through everyone. Hamed has a very good legacy but Legend - not IMO.

Dont have to be very good to be a legend.

Fighters like Bruno,Gatti and Benn are legends but would never be considered all time greats.

[Shamrock]

When Naz lost he was one of the biggest names in world boxing,won 3 or 4 world belts at featherweight,highest paid featherwight in the world,a proven mega star.


When Khan lost he was one the best lightweighs in Britain.



So no,there is no echoes of the Prince IMO.

Okay go back and read it again... the comparison I'm making is not as a fighter it's as a person.

Oh and Naseem could have could have achieved so much more had he not lost the plot, sacked his trainer and started to believe that he could walk through everyone. Hamed has a very good legacy but Legend - not IMO.

Dont have to be very good to be a legend.

Fighters like Bruno,Gatti and Benn are legends but would never be considered all time greats.

Another point I was making fighters like Bruno who was to be kind limited got massive support when they lost - we should try giving the same level of support to fighters that are winners - the whole British fight fan mentality is kind of wierd. I would agree with Benn being classed as a legend he gave us some great fights... but Bruno ?

[yvonne]

I think Khan will come out of this a much better fighter than he ever was.Obviously it'll take time, alot of time to regroup his confidents,but he really needs to start from scratch.He needs to ignore all of the press,change his promotor.....basically start from the beginning and wipe the slate clean.Why does'nt he get on the new Hittman(RICKY HATTON) promotions or the new Hayemaker(DAVID HAYE)promotion?There great prospects and he'll trust them too!

[Shamrock]

I think Khan will come out of this a much better fighter than he ever was.Obviously it'll take time, alot of time to regroup his confidents,but he really needs to start from scratch.He needs to ignore all of the press,change his promotor.....basically start from the beginning and wipe the slate clean.Why does'nt he get on the new Hittman(RICKY HATTON) promotions or the new Hayemaker(DAVID HAYE)promotion?There great prospects and he'll trust them too!

Exactly - He's lucky in a way that he's made mistakes early and has a lot of time to put them right. He should go back to basics - his strength is is his boxing and he's doing himself a diservice if he's trying to walk through guys instead of boxing his way to an opening and if the chance comes taking advantage of it.

[Fenster]

When Naz lost he was one of the biggest names in world boxing,won 3 or 4 world belts at featherweight,highest paid featherwight in the world,a proven mega star.


When Khan lost he was one the best lightweighs in Britain.



So no,there is no echoes of the Prince IMO.

Okay go back and read it again... the comparison I'm making is not as a fighter it's as a person.

Oh and Naseem could have could have achieved so much more had he not lost the plot, sacked his trainer and started to believe that he could walk through everyone. Hamed has a very good legacy but Legend - not IMO.

The difference is though Naz had already achieved EVERYTHING in world boxing - WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF champion and top P4P fighter.

Yes Naz lost the plot... and was probably an underachiever.

But Khan hasn't achieved ANYTHING.

[Shamrock]

When Naz lost he was one of the biggest names in world boxing,won 3 or 4 world belts at featherweight,highest paid featherwight in the world,a proven mega star.


When Khan lost he was one the best lightweighs in Britain.



So no,there is no echoes of the Prince IMO.

Okay go back and read it again... the comparison I'm making is not as a fighter it's as a person.

Oh and Naseem could have could have achieved so much more had he not lost the plot, sacked his trainer and started to believe that he could walk through everyone. Hamed has a very good legacy but Legend - not IMO.

The difference is though Naz had already achieved EVERYTHING in world boxing - WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF champion and top P4P fighter.

Yes Naz lost the plot... and was probably an underachiever.

But Khan hasn't achieved ANYTHING.

I agree... Like I said I wasn't comparing their records I'm comparing the mistakes that Khan is making - they are the same ones that Naseem made. The difference is Khan is making them before he's even really got started.

Naseem did not achive everything in world boxing - he failed by his own standards by losing to MAB. A fight he could have won if it were not for the decisions he made outside of the ring

[Fenster]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

[Shamrock]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

[porkypara]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would say there are not many other British fighters apart from Lewis who have had careers as good as Hamed.

And I dont even like the bloke

[Shamrock]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would say there are not many other British fighters apart from Lewis who have had careers as good as Hamed.

And I dont even like the bloke

I guess it depends on your definition of good/great and how far back you're looking...

I was a big Naseem fan from his very early fights and maybe I'm being a little hard on him because I feel a little short changed... he did achieve a lot but could have achieved so much more.

He did give us some great fights - I went to a number of them including the one in Wales against Steve Robinson when Naz boxed an almost perfect fight.

[Fenster]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would class winning what Naz did, EARNING what Naz did and retiring at 27 as a GREAT career.

Sorry i missed your point. I think the Naz/Khan comparison is crap though - and always has been

[Shamrock]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would class winning what Naz did, EARNING what Naz did and retiring at 27 as a GREAT career.

Sorry i missed your point. I think the Naz/Khan comparison is crap though - and always has been

It's cool mate - it would be a pretty boring forum if we all agreed on everything

Opinions are like @rse holes - everyone has one

[ICB]

Whether or not Naz would have beaten Barrera had he done things different is irrelevant. He had a GREAT career. He lost to a GREAT fighter.

Sorry.. but I dont see what you are left with concerning the khan comparison? They have both been in car accidents. They signed SKY deals. They both changed trainers.

That's not much, is it?

I guess you missed my point and I'm through trying to explain it.

Hamed was a GOOD fighter, he had a GOOD career and he lost to a GREAT fighter. Had be beaten MAB I would maybe have gone for 3 greats

I would class winning what Naz did, EARNING what Naz did and retiring at 27 as a GREAT career.

Sorry i missed your point. I think the Naz/Khan comparison is crap though - and always has been

I think the only comparison is that they both had similar incidents regarding cars other than that i see no comparison's at all.

[MIKAY]

U say your comparing nas and kahn as person's but i dont see any comparisons at all, nas was a cocky, flashy big mouth, whilst khan is more humble, down to earth fella. So your post doesnt even make sense.

The only reason the two are compared is because of thier skin color and religion as there is absalutly no other comparisons.

They both have completly different styles, body shapes and techniques, nas small, hard to hit, powerhouse whilst khan lanky, easy to hit with a poor chin.

on the money sides, nas was the type of person to rub his money in your face like mayweather and kahn dont think ive ever heard him talk about his money.

so what was you point again?