Juan Manuel Marquez Against Other Past Mexican Featherweights.

[Violent Demise]

You really don't know some boxing VD. You pretend to know things but your ignorance is crystal clear. A prime Barrera would have beaten Marquez. I doubt it if Marquez would still be standing against Sanchez. Marquez could not keep up against the power of Pacquaio, how much more against Sanchez?

For giving me neg reps without reason, I say this: Shut up VD.

Don't even try and pretend like you know about Sanchez and how good he was. Your the same idiot who said Sanchez and Wilfredo Gomez would get smoked by Pacquaio. Don't even think about denying it. I already got the thread bookmarked. So save yourself the embarrassment.

lol.

"Marques beats Sanchez. But would lose to Morales"

I love JMM great fighter but Sanchez was a league above them all he would soundly beat Marques. The Sanchez that obliterated Wilfredo Gomez i dout Marques sees round 10.

Oh the things Boxing Rec doesn't tell you. Gomez was moving up in weight to face Sanchez. He was the smaller man. Not only that Gomez came in completely out of shape. Puerto Rico has never forgiven Gomez for that. Gomez also underestimated Sanchez's power.

Marquez has always been a Featherweight. He's the same size as Sanchez was. He's always in shape and never underestimates an opponent. If anybody thinks Sanchez would do to Marquez what he did to Gomez is a fukking idiot. And knows nothing about Boxing. Pretty much describes you.

And you're saying that Pac doesn't have a chance against SAnchez but Marquez will win it for sure?

You can bring it up and we can have a debate on it. The two fighters would be very explosive but I still would give the upperhand on Pacquaio if they fight in the Featherweight. Pacquaio knows how to counter Marquez, Morales and Barrera. I know he can do it to Sanchez. In the featherweight, Pacquaio has the speed and the punching power to win it through. A prime Pac vs Sanchez could be very very close. It could go either way.

So what do you want to prove now VD?

Show me exactly where I said Pac had no chance?

[boozeboxer]

Why are you all talking about Pac on a Marquez thread v. Other Mexican Greats?

[Violent Demise]

Why are you all talking about Pac on a Marquez thread v. Other Mexican Greats?

Just look back on the thread and see who mentioned Pac first

[ICB]

Vincente Salvidar i really want to see i heard alot about him and Mick has said countless times he is really underrated. I've only seen highlights of him i don't know why there isn't even one fight of him.

[Mr140]

Does not matter because Sandy Saddler beats them all i know off topic.

[brucelee]

Since all of those match ups are hypothetical, it makes sense to assess their capabilities with the way they have fought a common fighter. For me, the best way to compare Marquez, Barrera and Morales is to compare how they have performed against a fighter they have fought. Thus, the mention of Pacquaio's name. As to SAnchez, SAlvidar and past mexican fighters, we can all hypothesize. We will never be sure and will just start some debates that will never be answered.

For example, regarding Marquez vs Sanchez, since I am a fan of Marquez, I can simply say that Sanchez will not win against Marquez. Marquez is a sweet counter puncher and can easily recover even from super fast and hard punching Pac. As to Sanchez, he died early and was not really tested with all kinds of fighters. Had he not died, he could have fought Arguello who challenged him after his fight with Jorge Garcia. History would be written differently had the two fought.

A fan of Sanchez may therefore counter it by citing his fights with Gomez and Nelson.

The debate would go on and on and no one can really be sure of who is the better fighter and who will win against whom.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

VD & Bruce. We're a tolerant site which is why I assume so many people want to play here and whilst I enjoy a good scrap as much as the next bird. It might help both of your cases if you didn't get so personal so quickly especially on the front pages?

Just y'know a suggestion.

[ICB]

Since all of those match ups are hypothetical, it makes sense to assess their capabilities with the way they have fought a common fighter. For me, the best way to compare Marquez, Barrera and Morales is to compare how they have performed against a fighter they have fought. Thus, the mention of Pacquaio's name. As to SAnchez, SAlvidar and past mexican fighters, we can all hypothesize. We will never be sure and will just start some debates that will never be answered.

For example, regarding Marquez vs Sanchez, since I am a fan of Marquez, I can simply say that Sanchez will not win against Marquez. Marquez is a sweet counter puncher and can easily recover even from super fast and hard punching Pac. As to Sanchez, he died early and was not really tested with all kinds of fighters. Had he not died, he could have fought Arguello who challenged him after his fight with Jorge Garcia. History would be written differently had the two fought.

A fan of Sanchez may therefore counter it by citing his fights with Gomez and Nelson.

The debate would go on and on and no one can really be sure of who is the better fighter and who will win against whom.

Salvador Sanchez dealt with a wide range of fighters. The awkward style of Pat Cowdell, power punching Wilfredo Gomez, high guard of Azumah Nelson, stick and move boxer Ruben Castillo, etc.