I love Joe Calzaghe!

[Violent Demise]

VD i edited your post because you tried to have a giggle regarding a brain damaged fighter (v bad taste) and nothing to do with khan at all when have i said i went to prison lol?
You need to read what i said carefully then try and better yourself
Anyway your simply boring me now

You say one thing. I say another. There is no true answer any more. Some how the post just disappeared. Damn I wonder why?

Bottom line is this. Take it anyway you want. Ingle was hurt in the Ring. I have never and will never make fun of a fighter who's suffered that fate. The post was clearly directed at your boy A Mere Con. Now if it went over your head and you couldn't pick up on that. That's not my problem.
It's yours

[Dark Lord Al]

Question to SMASHUP ?
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe doesnt slap ? or he doesnt smother his own punches and throw them incorrectly ?
My second point is Chris Eubank was never a big puncher at top level ,he was fed the same crap by the WBO as Calzaghe has been , he spent his entire career throwin looping punches like he was bowling at cricket.
i also agree with ICB , Calzaghe has a good chin , but he has never been in with many guys who can box and punch , Kessler is a strong puncher , Lacy has been exposed as a fraud , fact it people will like Calzaghe , and people will hate him , that my friends is boxing.

PS. FUCK YOU CALZAGHE IM A HATER

[leggy]

Question to SMASHUP ?
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe doesnt slap ? or he doesnt smother his own punches and throw them incorrectly ?
My second point is Chris Eubank was never a big puncher at top level ,he was fed the same crap by the WBO as Calzaghe has been , he spent his entire career throwin looping punches like he was bowling at cricket.
i also agree with ICB , Calzaghe has a good chin , but he has never been in with many guys who can box and punch , Kessler is a strong puncher , Lacy has been exposed as a fraud , fact it people will like Calzaghe , and people will hate him , that my friends is boxing.

PS. FUCK YOU CALZAGHE IM A HATER

why tho ?

[smashup]

Question to SMASHUP ?
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe doesnt slap ? or he doesnt smother his own punches and throw them incorrectly ?
My second point is Chris Eubank was never a big puncher at top level ,he was fed the same crap by the WBO as Calzaghe has been , he spent his entire career throwin looping punches like he was bowling at cricket.
i also agree with ICB , Calzaghe has a good chin , but he has never been in with many guys who can box and punch , Kessler is a strong puncher , Lacy has been exposed as a fraud , fact it people will like Calzaghe , and people will hate him , that my friends is boxing.

PS. FUCK YOU CALZAGHE IM A HATER

No
Read what i've posted before you ask questions with absolutely no meaning
Baffles me that you hate your countrys finest sporstman and best ever fighter?

[Mr140]

Smash what are you somking man dude you just say best fighter ever.

[smashup]

Smash what are you somking man dude you just say best fighter ever.

meaning from the uk
some of you need to read posts properly,better still use the "read" button

[yvonne]

Im a big fan of Calzaghe.Yeah he might slap most of the time,but his hand speed,his chin,his work rate and his boxing stills are second to none.Not to mention his great right hand jab.He might not have the power anymore to K.O a boxer out but his tactics to change and adapt to win a fight is fantasic.Calzaghe has one of the best boxing brains as a fighter in the ring EVER!


Shame on you british fans not liking Calzaghe


One thing i'll mention to the lovers and haters of Joe,is that if,"I hope",he fights Pavlik and loses he'll even generate more fans by going out with a BANG!

Luv u Joe!

[Memphis]

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It baffles me why some people right off Calzaghe against Pavlik. Calzaghe has proven time and time again that he simply wont be beat, can adapt during a fight, his punch power is practically zero but all the other tools are there.

Its the same old story....

X will do this to Calzaghe, Calzaghe cant do this, Calzaghe slaps ect ect. Each time Calzaghe flips the script.

Im not and never have been sold on Pavlik. He sparked Miranda, but then again old man Eastman almost sparked him a few round sooner, if he didnt have so many miles on the clock he would have. He beat reluctant fighter Jermaine Taylor twice, almost getting himself sparked out in the process.

Pavlik Calzaghe a 50/50 fight. A few years ago Calzaghe would have wiped the floor with him as he did Lacy........he still might.

[Fenster]

I used to really like Pavlik but his lovers have turned me against him.

Come on Hopkins!!! I would love that boring old bastard to spark him clean out.

[Bomp]

I used to really like Pavlik but his lovers have turned me against him.

Come on Hopkins!!! I would love that boring old bastard to spark him clean out.

I'm going the same way.

The whole Pavlik power thing is a bit much. Yes he hits hard but he's no julian Jackson. He gets the majority of his KO's through pressure, remarkably similar to Joe earlier on in his career. IMO Eubank has at least the same single punch power than Pavlik (probably more), his KO ratio is lower since he simply isn't a 100 punches a round pressure fighter.
Same goes for Mitchell, Brewer, Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins.

The only reason a Calzaghe-Pavlik fight may be competitive nowadays is joe's advancing years, and he HAS been slowing down recently. Simple reason is that come forward fighters are his bread and butter.

[Deanrw]

I used to really like Pavlik but his lovers have turned me against him.

Come on Hopkins!!! I would love that boring old bastard to spark him clean out.

You know, that really works both ways!LOL

[Fenster]

I used to really like Pavlik but his lovers have turned me against him.

Come on Hopkins!!! I would love that boring old bastard to spark him clean out.

You know, that really works both ways!LOL

I guess you guys are excited by your new hero.. like a kid with a new toy.

I predict in two years time Pavlik will be the new Lacy.

[Dark Lord Al]

Question to SMASHUP ?
Are you saying Joe Calzaghe doesn't slap ? or he doesn't smother his own punches and throw them incorrectly ?
My second point is Chris Eubank was never a big puncher at top level ,he was fed the same crap by the WBO as Calzaghe has been , he spent his entire career throwing looping punches like he was bowling at cricket.
i also agree with ICB , Calzaghe has a good chin , but he has never been in with many guys who can box and punch , Kessler is a strong puncher , Lacy has been exposed as a fraud , fact it people will like Calzaghe , and people will hate him , that my friends is boxing.

PS. FUCK YOU CALZAGHE IM A HATER

No
Read what i've posted before you ask questions with absolutely no meaning
Baffles me that you hate your countrys finest sporstman and best ever fighter?

I asked you a simple question , do you think Calzaghe smothers his own work and slaps or not ?

Also I'm English and Calzaghe is from Wales , and the UK is not a country , not that that is relevant to hating someone or not, finest sportsman ever ?? thats a matter of opinion lol
I HATE CALZAGHE GET OVER IT.

[RP33]

The biggest difference between Pavlik and Lacy, in regards to their punch (Pavlik is faster and steps sideways, and better defensively) is that Pavlik throws straight punches.. Lacy throws clubbing right hands that someone on Joe's level could see coming for a mile.. I'm not saying Pavlik is the quickest puncher, but when you watch his fights, notably from the recent fights, notice the first right hand that he drops on his opponent.. I remember rooting for Taylor, and as soon as he got hit with a right hand, he wasn't "stunned" as in physically stunned, but he was stunned mentally, he wasn't expecting it.. When you watch Lockett sit there and get hit with Kelly's right hand, he had the same response..

To be honest, I think that Pavlik mostly resembles Kessler, in regards of style.. and look what Calzaghe did to him.. Kessler had a few rally's but nothing more.. The HUGE difference between pavlik and kessler, is that Pavlik will be absolutely relentless the whole fight, while Kessler was a bit conservative early on, then he got frustrated and almost gave up towards the end it seemed..

Pavlik's chin is not even a factor in this fight so i don't know why anyone is talking about it.. If you think Joe could KO Pavlik then you've had a FEW too many.. The main factors will be CAN Pavlik connect with the right, and if so, HOW often..

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The biggest difference between Pavlik and Lacy, in regards to their punch (Pavlik is faster and steps sideways, and better defensively) is that Pavlik throws straight punches.. Lacy throws clubbing right hands that someone on Joe's level could see coming for a mile.. I'm not saying Pavlik is the quickest puncher, but when you watch his fights, notably from the recent fights, notice the first right hand that he drops on his opponent.. I remember rooting for Taylor, and as soon as he got hit with a right hand, he wasn't "stunned" as in physically stunned, but he was stunned mentally, he wasn't expecting it.. When you watch Lockett sit there and get hit with Kelly's right hand, he had the same response..

To be honest, I think that Pavlik mostly resembles Kessler, in regards of style.. and look what Calzaghe did to him.. Kessler had a few rally's but nothing more.. The HUGE difference between pavlik and kessler, is that Pavlik will be absolutely relentless the whole fight, while Kessler was a bit conservative early on, then he got frustrated and almost gave up towards the end it seemed..

Pavlik's chin is not even a factor in this fight so i don't know why anyone is talking about it.. If you think Joe could KO Pavlik then you've had a FEW too many.. The main factors will be CAN Pavlik connect with the right, and if so, HOW often..

The thing I see being the biggest factor is Calzaghe being able to close the gap where he likes to flurry with his quick shots.

I saw that he was able to do this quite well against the crafty Hopkins but hopkins was not throwing enough to keep him off. I think Kelly will be a ble to keep Joe at range and throw a straight right down the barrel when Joe tries to lunge in.

Pavlik can also fight well inside but I think that Kellys ability to keep Joe at range will dictate how this fight goes and I think once that triphammer drops a few times Joe will be somewhat leary which will play into Kelly's hands.

If this fight is fought at range it will be a win for kelly and probably a KO in between 10 and 12.