Carl Froch - "I'm the future"

[OumaFan]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a dent but I've seen him look not very hard to hit at all against guys that were not even near elite. And that's kind of the point with all of this about him, with all the talk about his chin, his power, etc, its never really been tested has it?

Not saying that's his fault, I haven't kept up enough, I couldn't go into whether he ducked Calzaghe, or Inkin ducked him.

I have never thought he was very good, and I haven't seen anything to change my mind about that so I will keep thinking that, but your loyalty is admirable and I no longer think you are Carl Froch

He most likely beats Paschal. There was a time when I thought Paschal looked like an interesting prospect Not anymore.

[Tam Seddon]

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a dent but I've seen him look not very hard to hit at all against guys that were not even near elite. And that's kind of the point with all of this about him, with all the talk about his chin, his power, etc, its never really been tested has it?

Not saying that's his fault, I haven't kept up enough, I couldn't go into whether he ducked Calzaghe, or Inkin ducked him.

I have never thought he was very good, and I haven't seen anything to change my mind about that so I will keep thinking that, but your loyalty is admirable and I no longer think you are Carl Froch

He most likely beats Paschal. There was a time when I thought Paschal looked like an interesting prospect Not anymore.

haha naah im not carl, just a good fan! but i agree that hes not been pushed to his maximum potential, but now is the time were that is going to change. Pascal is the start of great things to come for Froch and I have full faith in him! Bring on Dec 6th

[Rantcatrat]

I tend to like humble fighers and dislike brash, hyper-confident fighters. Froch falls into the latter group; Pavlik falls into the first.

That said, what has Froch shown that leads you to believe he would beat Pavlik? I agree Froch has style, which explains your affinity, but he has never faced a top twenty or even thirty fighter. Pavlik beat Taylor twice. The same Taylor that fought and beat or fought to a draw with future HOF's: Bernard Hopkins and Winkie Wright. Pavlik also served Edison Miranda with his very first knockout. This is the Edison Miranda who lost a very close decision to Arthur Abraham and knocked out another top ten fighter in Allen Green.

Additionally, At 6'2 1/2, Pavlik is bigger than Froch who stands 6'1.

Pavlik arguably punches harder than Froch. Of course, punching power is difficult to guage.

After his next fight, we will be better able to guage Froch's boxing prowess because Pascal is ranked in the top twenty by most rating agencies.

[Bomp]

I tend to like humble fighers and dislike brash, hyper-confident fighters. Froch falls into the latter group; Pavlik falls into the first.

That said, what has Froch shown that leads you to believe he would beat Pavlik? I agree Froch has style, which explains your affinity, but he has never faced a top twenty or even thirty fighter. Pavlik beat Taylor twice. The same Taylor that fought and beat or fought to a draw with future HOF's: Bernard Hopkins and Winkie Wright. Pavlik also served Edison Miranda with his very first knockout. This is the Edison Miranda who lost a very close decision to Arthur Abraham and knocked out another top ten fighter in Allen Green.

Additionally, At 6'2 1/2, Pavlik is bigger than Froch who stands 6'1.

Pavlik arguably punches harder than Froch. Of course, punching power is difficult to guage.

After his next fight, we will be better able to guage Froch's boxing prowess because Pascal is ranked in the top twenty by most rating agencies.

It's hard to say how brash and arrogant Froch is. The comments I read in the media does make him appear that way, but I'm guessing a lot of it is playing the game to garner interest, when i see him actually speak in interviews (like on setanta today) comes across much better.

As for comparisons with Pavlik, well like you said Pavlik has proven much more at this point in time. IMO it would be exciting, but I'm not yet sold on Froch so I'd pick Pavlik
as a comfortable favourite. It'd be interesting to see them side by side to compare their sizes, Pavlik has had a size advantage against most guys, but Hopkins seems to be his physical match and perhaps Froch could be bigger still.

[Rantcatrat]

I tend to like humble fighers and dislike brash, hyper-confident fighters. Froch falls into the latter group; Pavlik falls into the first.

That said, what has Froch shown that leads you to believe he would beat Pavlik? I agree Froch has style, which explains your affinity, but he has never faced a top twenty or even thirty fighter. Pavlik beat Taylor twice. The same Taylor that fought and beat or fought to a draw with future HOF's: Bernard Hopkins and Winkie Wright. Pavlik also served Edison Miranda with his very first knockout. This is the Edison Miranda who lost a very close decision to Arthur Abraham and knocked out another top ten fighter in Allen Green.

Additionally, At 6'2 1/2, Pavlik is bigger than Froch who stands 6'1.

Pavlik arguably punches harder than Froch. Of course, punching power is difficult to guage.

After his next fight, we will be better able to guage Froch's boxing prowess because Pascal is ranked in the top twenty by most rating agencies.

It's hard to say how brash and arrogant Froch is. The comments I read in the media does make him appear that way, but I'm guessing a lot of it is playing the game to garner interest, when i see him actually speak in interviews (like on setanta today) comes across much better.

As for comparisons with Pavlik, well like you said Pavlik has proven much more at this point in time. IMO it would be exciting, but I'm not yet sold on Froch so I'd pick Pavlik
as a comfortable favourite. It'd be interesting to see them side by side to compare their sizes, Pavlik has had a size advantage against most guys, but Hopkins seems to be his physical match and perhaps Froch could be bigger still.

I'm not totally sold on Pavlik either, I think Hopkins has a solid chance to upset Pavlik. On the other hand, if Pavlik Knocks out Hopkins, he may be the real deal - because no one has knocked out Bernard.