Yea but besides Toney he was a bit light as well at the weight people find him to be the best in i think Shane looked just unbeatable as well. But moving up in weight is what killed him Forrest would hard fight for alot of people i feel at welter he is a ver big man. I thought shane won the rematch is was much closer then people think. Then there is winkey Wright who is good pound for pound him self but at the weight of 154 Shane is almost 20 pounds over his prime weight. I dont know how a PBF fight would of gone with Forrest but i dont think Floyde could even beat Winky Wright at 154. All i am saying is that Shane had some big wins and i always thought stayed competive in his losses. He even as a pound for pound number one at a point i just think you were being a bit hard on him but at the same time i tend to be hard on Roy Jones Jr as well so.