I know You Enjoy Ripping On Andrew

[LEGION]

[quote=Trainer Monkey;606876]

Well the rest is up to him.

I'll be the 1st one to congratulate him if he wins{though it's another 1st timer}. But if he works as hard as you say he is and he wins GOOD than hell yeah, all credit to him.

I give him shit but he's just trying to do something for himself, nothing wrong with that. I still think he looks silly in the ring but I probably would too. Fuck it; when is the fight?[/quoteOctober 18th
I need this win,not for me,but for what I can do for him if he wins.
Hell I lose a fighter a month once they hear about my reputation,I intend to torture you here.
And theres allway an "easy gym"
There aint no easy here,I love when I talk to Andrew,and he sounds like death warmed over,he's allmost there.
The basic state of a training boxer is chronic exhaustion,and then you break through,and you wear your fatigue like a badge of honor.
He's allmost there.
Ive told Andrew,repeatedly,I want this fugger down in the first,so he cant get up
And as long as he's in my stable,Andrew is my responsibility and I will defend him

Getting Hillbilly Chimp out in the 1st would be great and all; but wouldn't you rather see how he does after a couple of rounds to see if he can keep his composure and not get all wildman like he does? Just curious.

[Trainer Monkey]

[quote=LEGION;606879]

Well the rest is up to him.

I'll be the 1st one to congratulate him if he wins{though it's another 1st timer}. But if he works as hard as you say he is and he wins GOOD than hell yeah, all credit to him.

I give him shit but he's just trying to do something for himself, nothing wrong with that. I still think he looks silly in the ring but I probably would too. Fuck it; when is the fight?[/quoteOctober 18th
I need this win,not for me,but for what I can do for him if he wins.
Hell I lose a fighter a month once they hear about my reputation,I intend to torture you here.
And theres allway an "easy gym"
There aint no easy here,I love when I talk to Andrew,and he sounds like death warmed over,he's allmost there.
The basic state of a training boxer is chronic exhaustion,and then you break through,and you wear your fatigue like a badge of honor.
He's allmost there.
Ive told Andrew,repeatedly,I want this fugger down in the first,so he cant get up
And as long as he's in my stable,Andrew is my responsibility and I will defend him

Getting Hillbilly Chimp out in the 1st would be great and all; but wouldn't you rather see how he does after a couple of rounds to see if he can keep his composure and not get all wildman like he does? Just curious.

Normally Id agree with that thinking,but he's been tossed in with so many guys he wasnt ready for,his record sucks.
To make him more marketable he needs a quick KO.It just looks good on his record.
Its massaging his record,he gets 2 or 3 wins we can worry about distance,right now we're walking a razor wire.I need end it and colect your check right now.

[amat]

It's not just his record that sucks though. I think he's the worst boxer I've ever seen in a pro ring. Maybe mullet boxer is worse, but he's about on that same level. And I guess Zelenoff is worse Hard to believe but it's true.

Maybe you might improve him and I know you are in good standing on this board, but your not actually in his corner are you? You can't correct him in real time, I've played plenty of sports and had plenty of coaches and that just seems so crucial especially when you have a guy like Andrew who doesn't even know the fundamentals. You're on his phone, so it does kind of throw some salt on what you are saying here imo but it's your perogative and I guess I hope he wins but at the same time I think he should just end the sharade. And it doesn't exactly endear himself when he says he is saying he's going to beat our asses on here when we all know he wouldn't even given the chance.

[brucelee]

I admire you more TM for defending Andrew. I am one of the few here who knows Andrew is serious about his boxing. He may not be talented (obviously, because of his lack of training), I know he is passionate about his boxing.

[Trainer Monkey]

I admire you more TM for defending Andrew. I am one of the few here who knows Andrew is serious about his boxing. He may not be talented (obviously, because of his lack of training), I know he is passionate about his boxing.

One thing I really like
When I first took him on,he was almost chipper on the phone. Now,he sounds like death warmed over every time I talk to him from training.
Its the way it should be
But this misery pays dividends in the ring

[ICB]

I admire you more TM for defending Andrew. I am one of the few here who knows Andrew is serious about his boxing. He may not be talented (obviously, because of his lack of training), I know he is passionate about his boxing.

Not to sound nasty here Bruce but lack of training my ass, if you have a future in boxing you already have the talent and the natural instincts of a fighter. Trainers can help you with fundamentals and etc, but the natural instincts of a fighter aswell as talent is of course natural, and no trainer can teach you that. Especially someone like Andrew Hartley IMO.

[brucelee]

I admire you more TM for defending Andrew. I am one of the few here who knows Andrew is serious about his boxing. He may not be talented (obviously, because of his lack of training), I know he is passionate about his boxing.

Not to sound nasty here Bruce but lack of training my ass, if you have a future in boxing you already have the talent and the natural instincts of a fighter. Trainers can help you with fundamentals and etc, but the natural instincts of a fighter aswell as talent is of course natural, and no trainer can teach you that. Especially someone like Andrew Hartley IMO.

I somewhat disagree on you with the instinct thing. Instincts can be learned as they are also lost. Passion is what makes a good fighter. You train a child at an early age to be a boxer and most probably he will acquire that so called fighter instinct when he grows up. I know you know what I mean ICB. Talents if not developed is as good as having no talent. We might be looking at Andrew as having no talent because his talent was not developed early. We can not surely judge right now if he has talent or not.

I will give my judgment if he is talented or not after TM train him properly.

[Trainer Monkey]

Sometimes being Andrew's trainer can be hilarious
He was in a bar a few nights ago,guy shoved him 3 times,and he dropped him. No problem plenty of witnesses and on tape
Except
He probably shouldnt have said,"You going to share those donoughts?" to the cop running holding
I cant help but laugh my ass off,my wifes pissed at me for finding it funny,but I cant help it

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

I admire you more TM for defending Andrew. I am one of the few here who knows Andrew is serious about his boxing. He may not be talented (obviously, because of his lack of training), I know he is passionate about his boxing.

Not to sound nasty here Bruce but lack of training my ass, if you have a future in boxing you already have the talent and the natural instincts of a fighter. Trainers can help you with fundamentals and etc, but the natural instincts of a fighter aswell as talent is of course natural, and no trainer can teach you that. Especially someone like Andrew Hartley IMO.

I somewhat disagree on you with the instinct thing. Instincts can be learned as they are also lost. Passion is what makes a good fighter. You train a child at an early age to be a boxer and most probably he will acquire that so called fighter instinct when he grows up. I know you know what I mean ICB. Talents if not developed is as good as having no talent. We might be looking at Andrew as having no talent because his talent was not developed early. We can not surely judge right now if he has talent or not.

I will give my judgment if he is talented or not after TM train him properly.

This is all civilian speak... You'e never been in with real fighters, have you Bruce.

I was 67-3 as an amateur but was never a real fighter. I wanted to be... I trained to be... But at the end of the day I didn't have the goods. I grew up in a boxing family and was nurtured from an early age... I had heart.. I NEVER stayed down even when I should have and was trained by Ronny Cole who has trained some decent fighters. I didn't have the defensive skills I hoped to have... INSTINCTS CAN NOT BE LEARNED!

I amassed to many concussions to continue...

You're talking out your ass a bit

[LEGION]

[quote=Trainer Monkey;606890]

Getting Hillbilly Chimp out in the 1st would be great and all; but wouldn't you rather see how he does after a couple of rounds to see if he can keep his composure and not get all wildman like he does? Just curious.

Normally Id agree with that thinking,but he's been tossed in with so many guys he wasnt ready for,his record sucks.
To make him more marketable he needs a quick KO.It just looks good on his record.
Its massaging his record,he gets 2 or 3 wins we can worry about distance,right now we're walking a razor wire.I need end it and colect your check right now.

That makes sense TM

[Trainer Monkey]

[quote=LEGION;607170]

Normally Id agree with that thinking,but he's been tossed in with so many guys he wasnt ready for,his record sucks.
To make him more marketable he needs a quick KO.It just looks good on his record.
Its massaging his record,he gets 2 or 3 wins we can worry about distance,right now we're walking a razor wire.I need end it and colect your check right now.

That makes sense TM

I hate the markatibility end of it,but lest face it,when I talk to a promoter,they dont care if he's a nice guy,or that he had a bad string of luck.They only care about,"How can I sell this fight"

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

[quote=Trainer Monkey;607215]

That makes sense TM

I hate the markatibility end of it,but lest face it,when I talk to a promoter,they dont care if he's a nice guy,or that he had a bad string of luck.They only care about,"How can I sell this fight"

People don't buy nice guys... People buy Mayweathers and Mayorgas and Vics... They buy guys that make noise... They either buy guys who are gonna back it up or they buy it in hopes he gets KOd cuz they hate him...