Phuking Republicans!

[El Kabong]

OumaFan this may come as quite a shock to you but Presidents and Vice Presidents haven't always gotten along, they haven't always been buddy-buddy, they haven't always been a perfect match and in this case the selection of Palin was merely a demographics decision.


Also we've had idiot Presidents before and we've had extremely intelligent Presidents and they have both had successes and failures.


I'm voting for McCain for several reasons but here are just a few for you guys: #1 I would have voted for him in 2000, #2 Over the past 8 years the one guy in the Republican Party who was a thorn in George W. Bush's side was JOHN McCAIN.....Hagle doesn't count he's just insane, he's a Republican like that crazy ass Ron Paul is a Republican. #3 Barrack Obama is inexperienced and we've already had 8 years of that, I've heard all the "He's a Washington outsider", "They'll surround him with good people", and "He's going to change Washington"......people said the exact same thing about George W. Bush....believe it or not

[Kirkland Laing]

McCain has done nothing but support Bush. His economic/foreign policy advisors are guys who were considered too extreme to be employed by even the Bush administration. If he gets elected in November and actually enacts the policies he's currently running on then what's left of the American economy after Bush has finished with it will melt down into a small puddle. Foreigners will stop funding America's debt and the dollar will turn into confetti.I originally wanted McCain to win so that he could screw everything up so badly that people would have to start paying attention, change course and put America on a new track. But things are already screwed so now we need to see a new direction toot sweet. The US doesn't have a choice now anyway, conservatism as defined by Bush/McCain is dead and buried.

[El Kabong]

Have you not jumped to your death yet??


McCain has opposed Bush from the day when the whisper campaign started in South Carolina. But be stubborn and don't believe me, don't bother to look at what really happened just use your mental powers to create a revisionist history fantasyland where THE Obama almighty and all powerful is the best candidate for the job and he's nothing like W. He has surely had extensive political and nonpolitical jobs where he has achieved beyond any and all expectations and his life experiences from those ventures have fully prepared him for the position of President.

[Kirkland Laing]

Are you questioning my Infallibility again?

Bush is a high-functioning moron. A clueless dummy. Obama is a smart guy who has sane policies and in a radical departure to twent y-first century American governance is promising to staff his administration with qualified people. Not political operatives whose last non-political job was running the US Arabian horse society who end up running the Federal disaster response to Hurricane Katrina, like Bush, or lobbyists/nutters like McCain, but actual qualified people.

[Mar]

This stuff all cracks me up, people still actually belive that thier so called "vote" has anything to do with who wins these elections ??!! People are put into positions of power to represent the will of the people bottom line. Not thier own beliefs, beliefs of thier church, how they were brought up etc...even if they don't agree the will of the people are how they are supposed to vote. Not only do most of these guys not vote (unless there is some type of gain for them or thier individual districts which usuallly lines thier pockets all the same) when they do it's the will of the the group with the most cash not anything that has to do with any of us. Our current economic situation is a perfect example of how them listening to us is a joke. There are a very small small group of people in favor of this bailout 95% of the rest of us either don't want it or don't understand it yet they push along reguardless, they call themselves doing what they think we should want instead of what we actually do. The document started out as four pages and now once "the people" started to get interested it's this long 300 page book full of language no one can or is meant to understand except them. We all yell no..yet you wake up in the morning and hear they are still pressing forward against our wishes. Yet you belive you have any say whatsoever in who is the big cheese, the most powerful man in the free world Yea right. They're just keeping us all busy and feeling like we have a part. There is no republican and democrat red and blue or black and white it's green, money determines everything.....it's foolish to think otherwise. Well not foolish cause to each his own, just my thoughts.

[Kirkland Laing]

This stuff all cracks me up, people still actually belive that thier so called "vote" has anything to do with who wins these elections ??!! People are put into positions of power to represent the will of the people bottom line. Not thier own beliefs, beliefs of thier church, how they were brought up etc...even if they don't agree the will of the people are how they are supposed to vote. Not only do most of these guys not vote (unless there is some type of gain for them or thier individual districts which usuallly lines thier pockets all the same) when they do it's the will of the the group with the most cash not anything that has to do with any of us. Our current economic situation is a perfect example of how them listening to us is a joke. There are a very small small group of people in favor of this bailout 95% of the rest of us either don't want it or don't understand it yet they push along reguardless, they call themselves doing what they think we should want instead of what we actually do. The document started out as four pages and now once "the people" started to get interested it's this long 300 page book full of language no one can or is meant to understand except them. We all yell no..yet you wake up in the morning and hear they are still pressing forward against our wishes. Yet you belive you have any say whatsoever in who is the big cheese, the most powerful man in the free world Yea right. They're just keeping us all busy and feeling like we have a part. There is no republican and democrat red and blue or black and white it's green, money determines everything.....it's foolish to think otherwise. Well not foolish cause to each his own, just my thoughts.

Most of the country is against the bailout but it'll have to happen. They'll have to give Wall Street (and a bunch of other firms) the money or the consequences for everybody will be much worse.

You're right in your post about how things get passed even though the majority don't want them. It's like the Dubai Ports thing. Nobody could understand why Bush would insist on them being allowed to buy US ports. But Bush had no choice. America owes so much money it can't afford to show the world it isn't open for business to people with money, especially oil money. He couldn't afford to set a precedent so he had to take his lumps and stand up for the Arabs against America's wishes.

[Kirkland Laing]

And there's every chance the bailout might not work btw. Whether the global financial system goes into total systemic meltdown is now beyond the control of the people who run the financial system. We 're going to see a bunch of hedge funds go bust now. One of them might be big enough to set things off. A bunch of foreign banks may decide to pull enough money out of the US and that will initiate collapse. There are a dozen things out of the financial system's control that might detonate the whole thing.

There could be a much better and effective bailout of the system than the one on offer. And we may see an eventual bailout v 2.0 that eventually works. But bailout of some kind there will have to be, otherwise things will get Depressingly bad. If we're lucky we can get away with just a severe recession for a year or three.

[amat]

OumaFan this may come as quite a shock to you but Presidents and Vice Presidents haven't always gotten along, they haven't always been buddy-buddy, they haven't always been a perfect match and in this case the selection of Palin was merely a demographics decision.

I think you missed his point, just a little bit.