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    Default Re: My Barrera - Marquez Scorecard.

    I had Barrera winning by a point. He would have won by more imo, but I had to score Nady's stupid call. Horrible call, pisses me off just thinking of that fight. MAB got hosed big time.

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    Default Re: My Barrera - Marquez Scorecard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    MAB - JMM

    9 R1 10
    10R2 9
    10 R3 9
    9 R4 10
    9 R5 10
    10 R6 9
    8 R7 10
    10 R8 9
    10 R9 9
    9 R10 10
    9 R11 10
    9 R12 10
    112 TOT 115

    First off a great fight to watch.

    The fight was competitive throughout but Marquez was more agressive and landed the harder shots. The last 3 rounds cost Barrera the fight in my opinion, he clearly tired in the last three rounds and i have no idea how Lederman scored the 11th for Barrera. I also noticed that Lampley was very focused on everything Barrera did but did not play much attention to everything Marquez was doing.
    yea it was a great fight probably one of JMMs greatest besides the wars with pacman, but JMM won not too clearly but even if you watched the fight without scoring it you can tell JMM won. and also i dont go by ledermans score card even though he is accurate most of the time i just cant stand his voice, he just annoys me for some reason

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    Default Re: My Barrera - Marquez Scorecard.

    This was a great fight. I had Barrera winning a close fight. I clearly saw Barrera being the more comfortable and sharper fighter in the first half of the fight. Marquez picked it up in the second half. But...Barrera had the knockdown. As for Nady's bs decision of deducting the point...well some will argue Barrera was being dirty...but i saw it differently. The best thing about that knockdown was right before...Marquez had Marco on the brink of a knockdown himself...but Barrera being the great champion he is...found something deep down to counter and knock Marquez down. Great fight.

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    I think i had this fight a draw but i honestly can't remember, i haven't seen this fight in ages. But what i do remember is that Marquez's power punch stats were misleading.

    Considering he had a massive 7th round where he landed about 30 more power punches and he dominated the round. Which is why Marquez landed 40 more power punches overall or whatever the total was.

    I thought the fight was pretty even for most of the way and i think they were equal in most departments, there should have been a rematch but its too late now. Im big fan of both fighters so i didn't care who won, but the scorecards were ridiculous end of.
    Last edited by ICB; 10-02-2008 at 03:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    This was a great fight. I had Barrera winning a close fight. I clearly saw Barrera being the more comfortable and sharper fighter in the first half of the fight. Marquez picked it up in the second half. But...Barrera had the knockdown. As for Nady's bs decision of deducting the point...well some will argue Barrera was being dirty...but i saw it differently. The best thing about that knockdown was right before...Marquez had Marco on the brink of a knockdown himself...but Barrera being the great champion he is...found something deep down to counter and knock Marquez down. Great fight.

    Same here . Barrera dominated the action early and Marquez' biggest mistake was trying to take Barrera out. I think he was just starting to get into the fight when he hurt Barrera then he tried to end it and walked onto a big punch . After that he was dazed for afew rounds but I think he finished stronger than Barrera . He had more in the tank at the end but on my scorecard Barrera was a 1 point winner. ( would have been larger if Nady didnt mess up in teh 6th )

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    This was a great fight. I had Barrera winning a close fight. I clearly saw Barrera being the more comfortable and sharper fighter in the first half of the fight. Marquez picked it up in the second half. But...Barrera had the knockdown. As for Nady's bs decision of deducting the point...well some will argue Barrera was being dirty...but i saw it differently. The best thing about that knockdown was right before...Marquez had Marco on the brink of a knockdown himself...but Barrera being the great champion he is...found something deep down to counter and knock Marquez down. Great fight.

    Same here . Barrera dominated the action early and Marquez' biggest mistake was trying to take Barrera out. I think he was just starting to get into the fight when he hurt Barrera then he tried to end it and walked onto a big punch . After that he was dazed for afew rounds but I think he finished stronger than Barrera . He had more in the tank at the end but on my scorecard Barrera was a 1 point winner. ( would have been larger if Nady didnt mess up in teh 6th)
    You mean the 7th?

    Barrera was winning the fight by the 7th round but the whole miss by Nady did cause a big difference. If the knockdown had counted, I would've had the fight as a draw... It would've just been a 9-9 round instead of a 10-8 in favor of Marquez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin View Post
    This was a great fight. I had Barrera winning a close fight. I clearly saw Barrera being the more comfortable and sharper fighter in the first half of the fight. Marquez picked it up in the second half. But...Barrera had the knockdown. As for Nady's bs decision of deducting the point...well some will argue Barrera was being dirty...but i saw it differently. The best thing about that knockdown was right before...Marquez had Marco on the brink of a knockdown himself...but Barrera being the great champion he is...found something deep down to counter and knock Marquez down. Great fight.

    Same here . Barrera dominated the action early and Marquez' biggest mistake was trying to take Barrera out. I think he was just starting to get into the fight when he hurt Barrera then he tried to end it and walked onto a big punch . After that he was dazed for afew rounds but I think he finished stronger than Barrera . He had more in the tank at the end but on my scorecard Barrera was a 1 point winner. ( would have been larger if Nady didnt mess up in teh 6th)
    You mean the 7th?

    Barrera was winning the fight by the 7th round but the whole miss by Nady did cause a big difference. If the knockdown had counted, I would've had the fight as a draw... It would've just been a 9-9 round instead of a 10-8 in favor of Marquez.
    Yeah whatever round it was when barrera had him down . What should have happend is Barrera knocks him down , ref calls it a knockdown and immediatley steps in . what happen is the ref did nothing Barrera threw another shot and it cost him a 10-8 round against him when it could have been 10-8 or 10-9 for him . Id have liked to have seen an immediate rematch but I think Barreras too old now . He was on his last legs then tbh .

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    Default Re: My Barrera - Marquez Scorecard.

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    Same here . Barrera dominated the action early and Marquez' biggest mistake was trying to take Barrera out. I think he was just starting to get into the fight when he hurt Barrera then he tried to end it and walked onto a big punch . After that he was dazed for afew rounds but I think he finished stronger than Barrera . He had more in the tank at the end but on my scorecard Barrera was a 1 point winner. ( would have been larger if Nady didnt mess up in teh 6th)
    You mean the 7th?

    Barrera was winning the fight by the 7th round but the whole miss by Nady did cause a big difference. If the knockdown had counted, I would've had the fight as a draw... It would've just been a 9-9 round instead of a 10-8 in favor of Marquez.
    Yeah whatever round it was when barrera had him down . What should have happend is Barrera knocks him down , ref calls it a knockdown and immediatley steps in . what happen is the ref did nothing Barrera threw another shot and it cost him a 10-8 round against him when it could have been 10-8 or 10-9 for him . Id have liked to have seen an immediate rematch but I think Barreras too old now . He was on his last legs then tbh .
    GAME i have a little present for you check your PM's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by caleoh12 View Post

    You mean the 7th?

    Barrera was winning the fight by the 7th round but the whole miss by Nady did cause a big difference. If the knockdown had counted, I would've had the fight as a draw... It would've just been a 9-9 round instead of a 10-8 in favor of Marquez.
    Yeah whatever round it was when barrera had him down . What should have happend is Barrera knocks him down , ref calls it a knockdown and immediatley steps in . what happen is the ref did nothing Barrera threw another shot and it cost him a 10-8 round against him when it could have been 10-8 or 10-9 for him . Id have liked to have seen an immediate rematch but I think Barreras too old now . He was on his last legs then tbh .
    GAME i have a little present for you check your PM's

    Nice 1 Ice. Ive hooked my computer up to my 50 inch telly too so this is great !!!!

    Cheers

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    Yeah whatever round it was when barrera had him down . What should have happend is Barrera knocks him down , ref calls it a knockdown and immediatley steps in . what happen is the ref did nothing Barrera threw another shot and it cost him a 10-8 round against him when it could have been 10-8 or 10-9 for him . Id have liked to have seen an immediate rematch but I think Barreras too old now . He was on his last legs then tbh .
    GAME i have a little present for you check your PM's

    Nice 1 Ice. Ive hooked my computer up to my 50 inch telly too so this is great !!!!

    Cheers
    Mate i've been downloading MAB fights for the last 3 days, i won't have any room at this rate. Im like a kid in a candy shop with all these MAB fights, just recently watched a young Barrera with a mullet

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    Default Re: My Barrera - Marquez Scorecard.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
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    GAME i have a little present for you check your PM's

    Nice 1 Ice. Ive hooked my computer up to my 50 inch telly too so this is great !!!!

    Cheers
    Mate i've been downloading MAB fights for the last 3 days, i won't have any room at this rate. Im like a kid in a candy shop with all these MAB fights, just recently watched a young Barrera with a mullet
    Lol ive seen that too . His first fight is on youtube. He was throwing furious punches with both arms chasing the other guy across the ring . Couldnt recognise him with that mullet . Im downloading the Maurin fight now

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    Default Re: My Barrera - Marquez Scorecard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pugilistic View Post
    MAB - JMM

    9 R1 10
    10R2 9
    10 R3 9
    9 R4 10
    9 R5 10
    10 R6 9
    8 R7 10
    10 R8 9
    10 R9 9
    9 R10 10
    9 R11 10
    9 R12 10
    112 TOT 115

    First off a great fight to watch.

    The fight was competitive throughout but Marquez was more agressive and landed the harder shots. The last 3 rounds cost Barrera the fight in my opinion, he clearly tired in the last three rounds and i have no idea how Lederman scored the 11th for Barrera. I also noticed that Lampley was very focused on everything Barrera did but did not play much attention to everything Marquez was doing.
    Just rewatched it.

    1 Barrera
    2 Barrera
    3 Marquez
    4 Marquez
    5 Marquez
    6 Barerra
    7 Marquez 10-8
    8 Barrera
    9 Barrera
    10 Marquez
    11 Marquez
    12 Marquez

    115-112 Juan Manuel Marquez

    Great fight and as close as i remember and as good as i remember, but Marquez out fought Barrera in those last 3 rounds which gave him the edge. Even if the knockdown would of been scored in the 7th, i still would have only scored it 10-9 for Barrera, because it was such a one sided round for Marquez.

    By the way there was no bias in my scoring im a massive fan of both fighters, so i wasn't favoring one fighter over another.

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