Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
miles it doesn't change the fact that we're there....do you get where I'm coming from?



And even if there were never any WMDs or anything like that all Saddam had to do was play ball and everything would have been fine but nooooo Saddam had to be a big shot and try to show us up and we called his bluff and now he's dead and we're well within our rights to call someone out on a treaty they agreed to or else the whole idea of signing a treaty is bogus.


Had someone done that with Germany a while back then well let's just say a lot of shit could have been avoided
There were no WMDs. The war was built on false premises.

Comparing it to Nazi Germany is way off too. The Germans were a obviously a threat with a heap of military build up and a worrying tendency to keep trying to expand their borders. A hugely powerful country. Iraq was feeble and hadnt actually done anything to provoke the latest war. Except for these WMD's that didnt actually exist.

I agree with you that the US is now entrenched in Iraq. But the reasons they are still there are because there was no coherent plan in the first place. And like I said, Afghanistan is only deteriorating, and that was the primary target in response to the so called "terror threat". Iraq has nothing to do with that.

Anybody wanting a perpetuation of this administration must be out of their minds. You seem to be somewhat myopic when it comes to politics, Lyle. You will always defend your ideology no matter the moral vacuousness that sometimes entails. A lot of what has happened under this administration has been inhumane and fundamentally dishonest, and yet you continue to make excuses for what is very serious and basically wrong.