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    Default Re: Taylor-Lacy: All or nothing !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by TigerFan View Post
    I think Taylor wins this match maybe even by KO.
    Taylor by early KO or dominating decision.
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    Gotta root for the hometown hero (Taylor doesn't live to far from me; helluva nice guy by the way)...

    Taylor all the way... would like to see Taylor take the division. Taylor v Calzaghe wouldn't be a bad fight...
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    Jermain Taylor wins this hands down even though he lost to Kelly Pavlik twice, you saw his best boxing abilities, and his best brawling abilities in both fights. Jermain Talor fought the best in those 2 championship fights, better than he had in any other of his championship fights.

    I never really thought Jeff Lacy was that good of a fighter personally, but i do admire his courage and guts. But lets bet honest here he was almost KO'ed by a bum in his last fight, and has been struggling with the likes of Peter Manfredo.

    I have gave Jeff Lacy two chances to show me something but he hasn't shown me anything, except for heart and guts but he has always had that. I think Jeff Lacy gets an embarrassing beating in this fight, but both fighters are good people outside the ring. So i wish both of em the best of luck in this fight im not rooting for anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Jermain Taylor wins this hands down even though he lost to Kelly Pavlik twice, you saw his best boxing abilities, and his best brawling abilities in both fights. Jermain Talor fought the best in those 2 championship fights, better than he had in any other of his championship fights.

    I never really thought Jeff Lacy was that good of a fighter personally, but i do admire his courage and guts. But lets bet honest here he was almost KO'ed by a bum in his last fight, and has been struggling with the likes of Peter Manfredo.

    I have gave Jeff Lacy two chances to show me something but he hasn't shown me anything, except for heart and guts but he has always had that. I think Jeff Lacy gets an embarrassing beating in this fight, but both fighters are good people outside the ring. So i wish both of em the best of luck in this fight im not rooting for anyone.
    I guess you being an amatuer fighter things like injuries dont affect your career, let alone a torn rotator cuff.. I mean hell what do you need that for right??

    Dont BS around either, you know damn well Mendoza is one dimensional, but that one dimension is 1 punch KO power, look at his % I think it speaks for itself.. Not to mention all the fouling he got away with

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    I respect JT sticking up for his boy, but he went to desperate places against Epi, he admitted that he tackled Mendoza intentionally in the post fight interview. He's got a punchers chance sure, but if Taylor can find his rhythm it's gonna be a rough night for Lacy, Taylor's got a brilliant jab which could foil Lacy's charge. On the flip side of the coin Taylor stands too tall a lot of times and that could make a relatively easy target for Lacy's signature punch.

    My guess Taylor by decision 8 rounds to 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I respect JT sticking up for his boy, but he went to desperate places against Epi, he admitted that he tackled Mendoza intentionally in the post fight interview. He's got a punchers chance sure, but if Taylor can find his rhythm it's gonna be a rough night for Lacy, Taylor's got a brilliant jab which could foil Lacy's charge. On the flip side of the coin Taylor stands too tall a lot of times and that could make a relatively easy target for Lacy's signature punch.

    My guess Taylor by decision 8 rounds to 4.
    I appreciate your analysis Greg, because even though Lacy is my boy I agree with everything you said 100%

    I just dont see Taylor stopping him

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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    I respect JT sticking up for his boy, but he went to desperate places against Epi, he admitted that he tackled Mendoza intentionally in the post fight interview. He's got a punchers chance sure, but if Taylor can find his rhythm it's gonna be a rough night for Lacy, Taylor's got a brilliant jab which could foil Lacy's charge. On the flip side of the coin Taylor stands too tall a lot of times and that could make a relatively easy target for Lacy's signature punch.

    My guess Taylor by decision 8 rounds to 4.
    I appreciate your analysis Greg, because even though Lacy is my boy I agree with everything you said 100%

    I just dont see Taylor stopping him

    There are two cases to where the fight gets stopped in Taylors favor, if Lacy aggrevates his old injuries OR he gets frustrated and starts flailing like he did against Mendoza, Taylor has the skill to make him pay for wild agression.

    Controlled agression is the key for Lacy, he has to keep active without bouncing in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Jermain Taylor wins this hands down even though he lost to Kelly Pavlik twice, you saw his best boxing abilities, and his best brawling abilities in both fights. Jermain Talor fought the best in those 2 championship fights, better than he had in any other of his championship fights.

    I never really thought Jeff Lacy was that good of a fighter personally, but i do admire his courage and guts. But lets bet honest here he was almost KO'ed by a bum in his last fight, and has been struggling with the likes of Peter Manfredo.

    I have gave Jeff Lacy two chances to show me something but he hasn't shown me anything, except for heart and guts but he has always had that. I think Jeff Lacy gets an embarrassing beating in this fight, but both fighters are good people outside the ring. So i wish both of em the best of luck in this fight im not rooting for anyone.
    I guess you being an amatuer fighter things like injuries dont affect your career, let alone a torn rotator cuff.. I mean hell what do you need that for right??

    Dont BS around either, you know damn well Mendoza is one dimensional, but that one dimension is 1 punch KO power, look at his % I think it speaks for itself.. Not to mention all the fouling he got away with
    Injury or no injury that wasn't my point JT the fact is whether its the injury or not, he clearly isn't the same fighter. And his punch resistance looks very shaky to me.

    Epifanio Mendoza i'll admit i had only seen 2 of his fights when he upset Rubin Williams, and when he lost to Chad Dawson. But he is a shot fighter now and he is a gatekeeper for upcoming prospects.

    If Jeff Lacy was at the elite level which he clearly isn't anymore, he should have handled Mendoza with ease. And you talk about Mendoza's punching power but if you actually look at his record, the only real name he has stopped was Rubin Williams. No other names on his record are worth mentioning.

    JT even you have to admit Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter. He couldn't avoid any of Mendoza's punches and lets remember how limited Mendoza actually is. I gave Jeff Lacy praise in my last post like i said he is very gutsy fighter, but that doesn't change the fact he is a shot fighter physically and mentally. And Jermain Taylor should give Jeff Lacy a beating, based on Jeff Lacy's recent performances.
    Last edited by ICB; 10-08-2008 at 10:52 PM.

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    Default Re: Taylor-Lacy: All or nothing !!!

    Taylor is going to take Lacy to school.

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    Going by their recent performances Taylor has been more impressive. Since Calzaghe and the injury Lacy has really been struggling. I hope Lacy can make a fight of it, but Taylor has the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Jermain Taylor wins this hands down even though he lost to Kelly Pavlik twice, you saw his best boxing abilities, and his best brawling abilities in both fights. Jermain Talor fought the best in those 2 championship fights, better than he had in any other of his championship fights.

    I never really thought Jeff Lacy was that good of a fighter personally, but i do admire his courage and guts. But lets bet honest here he was almost KO'ed by a bum in his last fight, and has been struggling with the likes of Peter Manfredo.

    I have gave Jeff Lacy two chances to show me something but he hasn't shown me anything, except for heart and guts but he has always had that. I think Jeff Lacy gets an embarrassing beating in this fight, but both fighters are good people outside the ring. So i wish both of em the best of luck in this fight im not rooting for anyone.
    I guess you being an amatuer fighter things like injuries dont affect your career, let alone a torn rotator cuff.. I mean hell what do you need that for right??

    Dont BS around either, you know damn well Mendoza is one dimensional, but that one dimension is 1 punch KO power, look at his % I think it speaks for itself.. Not to mention all the fouling he got away with
    Injury or no injury that wasn't my point JT the fact is whether its the injury or not, he clearly isn't the same fighter. And his punch resistance looks very shaky to me.

    Epifanio Mendoza i'll admit i had only seen 2 of his fights when he upset Rubin Williams, and when he lost to Chad Dawson. But he is a shot fighter now and he is a gatekeeper for upcoming prospects.

    If Jeff Lacy was at the elite level which he clearly isn't anymore, he should have handled Mendoza with ease. And you talk about Mendoza's punching power but if you actually look at his record, the only real name he has stopped was Rubin Williams. No other names on his record are worth mentioning.

    JT even you have to admit Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter. He couldn't avoid any of Mendoza's punches and lets remember how limited Mendoza actually is. I gave Jeff Lacy praise in my last post like i said he is very gutsy fighter, but that doesn't change the fact he is a shot fighter physically and mentally. And Jermain Taylor should give Jeff Lacy a beating, based on Jeff Lacy's recent performances.

    Mendoza hits incredibly hard. You are taking away credit where you shouldn't, this is a boxrec moment for you. It honestly sounds like haven't watched the Mendoza/Lacy fight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfCSrN3kqSg

    Listen to how hard the punch at 2:20 is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    I guess you being an amatuer fighter things like injuries dont affect your career, let alone a torn rotator cuff.. I mean hell what do you need that for right??

    Dont BS around either, you know damn well Mendoza is one dimensional, but that one dimension is 1 punch KO power, look at his % I think it speaks for itself.. Not to mention all the fouling he got away with
    Injury or no injury that wasn't my point JT the fact is whether its the injury or not, he clearly isn't the same fighter. And his punch resistance looks very shaky to me.

    Epifanio Mendoza i'll admit i had only seen 2 of his fights when he upset Rubin Williams, and when he lost to Chad Dawson. But he is a shot fighter now and he is a gatekeeper for upcoming prospects.

    If Jeff Lacy was at the elite level which he clearly isn't anymore, he should have handled Mendoza with ease. And you talk about Mendoza's punching power but if you actually look at his record, the only real name he has stopped was Rubin Williams. No other names on his record are worth mentioning.

    JT even you have to admit Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter. He couldn't avoid any of Mendoza's punches and lets remember how limited Mendoza actually is. I gave Jeff Lacy praise in my last post like i said he is very gutsy fighter, but that doesn't change the fact he is a shot fighter physically and mentally. And Jermain Taylor should give Jeff Lacy a beating, based on Jeff Lacy's recent performances.

    Mendoza hits incredibly hard. You are taking away credit where you shouldn't, this is a boxrec moment for you. It honestly sounds like haven't watched the Mendoza/Lacy fight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfCSrN3kqSg

    Listen to how hard the punch at 2:20 is.
    I've seen the fight and i never said Mendoza couldn't punch, but he is very limited and a gatekeeper. Everytime he has stepped up he has lost except for when he stopped Rubin Williams.

    But thats the only good name he has ever stopped, saying Mendoza hits incredibly hard is overrating Mendoza seriously too much. Before he fought Jeff Lacy everyone considered Mendoza a joke of an opponent, and infact not many people had even heard of him.

    I don't see why now people are suddenly considering him as a massive puncher, and a good opponent because he hurt Jeff Lacy and lost a controversial decision. I think its more to do with the fact how much of a shot fighter Jeff Lacy is now, he got hit with the uppercut all night long. And had no gameplan or no defense.
    Last edited by ICB; 10-08-2008 at 11:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post

    I guess you being an amatuer fighter things like injuries dont affect your career, let alone a torn rotator cuff.. I mean hell what do you need that for right??

    Dont BS around either, you know damn well Mendoza is one dimensional, but that one dimension is 1 punch KO power, look at his % I think it speaks for itself.. Not to mention all the fouling he got away with
    Injury or no injury that wasn't my point JT the fact is whether its the injury or not, he clearly isn't the same fighter. And his punch resistance looks very shaky to me.

    Epifanio Mendoza i'll admit i had only seen 2 of his fights when he upset Rubin Williams, and when he lost to Chad Dawson. But he is a shot fighter now and he is a gatekeeper for upcoming prospects.

    If Jeff Lacy was at the elite level which he clearly isn't anymore, he should have handled Mendoza with ease. And you talk about Mendoza's punching power but if you actually look at his record, the only real name he has stopped was Rubin Williams. No other names on his record are worth mentioning.

    JT even you have to admit Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter. He couldn't avoid any of Mendoza's punches and lets remember how limited Mendoza actually is. I gave Jeff Lacy praise in my last post like i said he is very gutsy fighter, but that doesn't change the fact he is a shot fighter physically and mentally. And Jermain Taylor should give Jeff Lacy a beating, based on Jeff Lacy's recent performances.

    Mendoza hits incredibly hard. You are taking away credit where you shouldn't, this is a boxrec moment for you. It honestly sounds like haven't watched the Mendoza/Lacy fight.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfCSrN3kqSg

    Listen to how hard the punch at 2:20 is.
    Yea no kidding that had some stank on it... To go along with those chops to the back of the head he was landing all nite on Jeff.. I dont care if Mendoza has been fighting railroad bums.. IF YOU HAD REALLY HEARD OF MENDOZA than you would know the guy has serious KO power

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TigerFan View Post
    I think Taylor wins this match maybe even by KO.
    Taylor by early KO or dominating decision.
    Please explain further... he couldnt stop Spinks or Ouma who are both natural Welterweights, also he couldnt finish Pavlik when he had him out of there. Look at his % he is far from a KO fighter for about 3 years, let alone a fight where he is moving up to take someone else on that has fought his career at that weight

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