Taylor-Lacy: All or nothing !!!

[killersheep]

Oh please JT now your really reaching here now bro, Earnie Shavers KO'ed Ken Norton, Jimmy Ellis, Jimmy Young, Roy Williams, Joe Bugner, solid opponents. He also put down Larry Holmes with one of the hardest punches i've ever seen that Larry Holmes hit the canvas with a thudding sound.

Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes have also both stated Earnie Shavers. Is the hardest puncher they have ever fought, and just look at the opposition those guys were in there with thats saying alot. And plus lets not forget Earnie Shavers was in one of the strongest era's in boxing history. I don't know how you compare a mediocre shot fighter like Mendoza to the great Earnie Shavers.

AH YES!!! just going buy what you said dude.. Mendoze cant punch for dookey as far as your concerned because everytime he stepped up he lost..

I know Shavers was great, but I think its ridiculous of your criteria for a power puncher.. I mean cmon man.. Goes to show power alone dosent win fights but dosent mean Mendoza cant punch nor does it mean Lacy has incredibly low punch resistance now because he got hit with bombs from Mendoza

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something.

Can he hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near on the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in top 40 punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Tell you what you what man, make a list of 5 super middleweights that have the one punch KO power of Mendoza and I'll concede the point to you. One punch KO power mind you, not accumulative like Kessler or Andrade

[JT Rock]

lol, I do consider Mendoza a powerful puncher, and a good opponent, would I say Epi is title contender level? no way,
top 10 at 168? not a chance
but you could sure find out in a hurry how your fighter would handle wild power punches.

You just basically agreed with what i said Mendoza is nowhere the elite level, he hasn't got world class punching power, and he is not a title contender. All i think this fight tells us is how far Jeff Lacy has fallen, that he now struggles against someone as limited as Mendoza.

Well you got 2 out of 3 right, Mendoza has power, your denying it doesn't make it less true. In fact, I think that you are the only one that thinks Mendoza doesn't have world class power.

All that means ICB is that Power alone dosent win fights thats why he couldnt stop anyone.. you need to be a bit of everything

Plus that stoppage against Dawson was highly questionable

[ICB]

lol, I do consider Mendoza a powerful puncher, and a good opponent, would I say Epi is title contender level? no way,
top 10 at 168? not a chance
but you could sure find out in a hurry how your fighter would handle wild power punches.

You just basically agreed with what i said Mendoza is nowhere the elite level, he hasn't got world class punching power, and he is not a title contender. All i think this fight tells us is how far Jeff Lacy has fallen, that he now struggles against someone as limited as Mendoza.

Well you got 2 out of 3 right, Mendoza has power, your denying it doesn't make it less true. In fact, I think that you are the only one that thinks Mendoza doesn't have world class power.

You and JT are the only one's i've ever seen consider Mendoza a world class puncher, and i never see one person before the Jeff Lacy fight. Even consider him a good opponent let alone a a world class puncher. They considered him a joke of an opponent who most people hadn't even heard of.

[killersheep]

You just basically agreed with what i said Mendoza is nowhere the elite level, he hasn't got world class punching power, and he is not a title contender. All i think this fight tells us is how far Jeff Lacy has fallen, that he now struggles against someone as limited as Mendoza.

Well you got 2 out of 3 right, Mendoza has power, your denying it doesn't make it less true. In fact, I think that you are the only one that thinks Mendoza doesn't have world class power.

All that means ICB is that Power alone dosent win fights thats why he couldnt stop anyone.. you need to be a bit of everything

Plus that stoppage against Dawson was highly questionable

I agree that power alone doesn't always win fights, but sometimes it does. I agree completely that Mendoza is not a top rated fighter, but I have a hard time imagining anyone at 168 or 175 for that matter that wouldn't get staggered by Mendoza's overhand right if they got caught clean.

[CFH]

AH YES!!! just going buy what you said dude.. Mendoze cant punch for dookey as far as your concerned because everytime he stepped up he lost..

I know Shavers was great, but I think its ridiculous of your criteria for a power puncher.. I mean cmon man.. Goes to show power alone dosent win fights but dosent mean Mendoza cant punch nor does it mean Lacy has incredibly low punch resistance now because he got hit with bombs from Mendoza

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something.

Can he hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near on the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in top 40 punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Tell you what you what man, make a list of 5 super middleweights that have the one punch KO power of Mendoza and I'll concede the point to you. One punch KO power mind you, not accumulative like Kessler or Andrade

Can I play?

For what it's worth I feel the Mendoza is a very big puncher, so I'm not arguing that point, I just want to see if I can list 5 or more bigger (one) punchers at SMW.


Edison Miranda
Carl Froch
Lucien Bute (might be more accumulative)
hmmmm...
Berrio?
maybe Allan Green?
Oganov? (never seen him fight, so can't really say for sure)
maybe Zuniga?

[killersheep]

You just basically agreed with what i said Mendoza is nowhere the elite level, he hasn't got world class punching power, and he is not a title contender. All i think this fight tells us is how far Jeff Lacy has fallen, that he now struggles against someone as limited as Mendoza.

Well you got 2 out of 3 right, Mendoza has power, your denying it doesn't make it less true. In fact, I think that you are the only one that thinks Mendoza doesn't have world class power.

You and JT are the only one's i've ever seen consider Mendoza a world class puncher, and i never see one person before the Jeff Lacy fight. Even consider him a good opponent let alone a a world class puncher. They considered him a joke of an opponent who most people hadn't even heard of.

Who is they?

[Kev]

Oh please JT now your really reaching here now bro, Earnie Shavers KO'ed Ken Norton, Jimmy Ellis, Jimmy Young, Roy Williams, Joe Bugner, solid opponents. He also put down Larry Holmes with one of the hardest punches i've ever seen that Larry Holmes hit the canvas with a thudding sound.

Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes have also both stated Earnie Shavers. Is the hardest puncher they have ever fought, and just look at the opposition those guys were in there with thats saying alot. And plus lets not forget Earnie Shavers was in one of the strongest era's in boxing history. I don't know how you compare a mediocre shot fighter like Mendoza to the great Earnie Shavers.

AH YES!!! just going buy what you said dude.. Mendoze cant punch for dookey as far as your concerned because everytime he stepped up he lost..

I know Shavers was great, but I think its ridiculous of your criteria for a power puncher.. I mean cmon man.. Goes to show power alone dosent win fights but dosent mean Mendoza cant punch nor does it mean Lacy has incredibly low punch resistance now because he got hit with bombs from Mendoza

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something. Which is totally different to Earnie Shavers who was arguably in the top 5 strongest era's in boxing history.

Can Mendoza hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near one the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in the top 40 hardest punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was also hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Well Edison Miranda and Sam Peter have never KO'd anyone decent, so they obviously can't punch. Valero only name KO was against the little known Mosquera so he must be regarded as as powder puff as well until he KO's a top level genuine great right?


Anyway onto the fight, I agree with the majority that the odds are heavily stacked against Jeff Lacy for this one, he's clearly not been at his best since the Calzaghe loss.

But I'm a HUGE Jeff Lacy fan, love his heart, his passion and his honesty. In fact he's the only American fighter that get that same kind of passionate pride like I do my favourite English fighters.

He's one of the few fighters I want to see suceed on a personal level before a boxing one.

So even though most have already counted him out, I'll be staying up late to support my boy, whooping, hollaring and yahooing at my monitor screen the whole time.

Between now and Christmas he's probably the one fighter who I want to win more than any other, simply because everyone is discounting him and calling him shot. No fighter in the sport has more courage than Jeff Lacy inside the ring and he will give it 100% for 12 full rounds.

Taylor has much the better pedigree but he does lack self belief himself at times, and unlike Jeff takes time off. I expect Taylor to control the fight early and if Jeff comes at him it may suit him and he could even take Jeff apart. But there is a chance imo that Taylor starts to fade down the stretch and if the fight is in the balance down the final third of the fight I can guarantee that Lacy will be working overtime to try and finish the fight on top.

I'll say this much, if this fight is close going into the 10th round I'd put my house on Jeff Lacy winning the last 2 rounds. He's got more heart than any other American fighter imo and I can see Taylor mentally wilting in the 11th and 12th rounds if the fight is close and Lacy winning by a razor thin split decision. That will be good enough for me

[ICB]

AH YES!!! just going buy what you said dude.. Mendoze cant punch for dookey as far as your concerned because everytime he stepped up he lost..

I know Shavers was great, but I think its ridiculous of your criteria for a power puncher.. I mean cmon man.. Goes to show power alone dosent win fights but dosent mean Mendoza cant punch nor does it mean Lacy has incredibly low punch resistance now because he got hit with bombs from Mendoza

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something.

Can he hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near on the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in top 40 punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Tell you what you what man, make a list of 5 super middleweights that have the one punch KO power of Mendoza and I'll concede the point to you. One punch KO power mind you, not accumulative like Kessler or Andrade

Mendoza hasn't got 1 punch KO power i don't why you believe that. But i think Mikkel Kessler, Carl Froch, Edison Miranda, Alejandro Berrio, Librado Andrade, Lucian Bute, Fulgencio Zuniga, all have strong cases for being bigger punchers than Mendoza. And heres a 40 fighters who i consider harder punchers than Mendoza.

Kelly Pavlik
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manny Pacquiao
Roman Gonzalez
David Haye
Wladimir Klitschko
Samuel Peter
Mikke Kessler
Kelly Pavlik
Antonio Tarver
Arthur Abraham
Andre Berto
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Ricardo Torres
Edwin Valero
Juan Manuel Lopez
Rafael Marquez
Carl Froch
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Edison Miranda
Jhonny Gonzalez
Vic Darchinyan
Enzo Maccarinelli
Ulises Solis
Librado Andrade
Breidis Prescott
Hugo Fidel Cazares
Kermit Cintron
Joel Casamayor
Shane Mosley
Vitali Klitschko
Alexander Povetkin
O'Neil Bell
Herbie Hide
Lucian Bute
Fulgencio Zuniga
Joel Julio
Yuriokris Gamboa
James Kirkland
Victor Ortiz

Theres about 40 fighters who all hit harder than Mendoza, few only about 6 fighters on that list you could argue against.

[killersheep]

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something.

Can he hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near on the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in top 40 punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Tell you what you what man, make a list of 5 super middleweights that have the one punch KO power of Mendoza and I'll concede the point to you. One punch KO power mind you, not accumulative like Kessler or Andrade

Mendoza hasn't got 1 punch KO power i don't why you believe that. But i think Mikkel Kessler, Carl Froch, Edison Miranda, Alejandro Berrio, Librado Andrade, Lucian Bute, Fulgencio Zuniga, all have strong cases for being bigger punchers than Mendoza. And heres a 40 fighters who i consider harder punchers than Mendoza.

Kelly Pavlik
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manny Pacquiao
Roman Gonzalez
David Haye
Wladimir Klitschko
Samuel Peter
Mikke Kessler
Kelly Pavlik
Antonio Tarver
Arthur Abraham
Andre Berto
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Ricardo Torres
Edwin Valero
Juan Manuel Lopez
Rafael Marquez
Carl Froch
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Edison Miranda
Jhonny Gonzalez
Vic Darchinyan
Enzo Maccarinelli
Ulises Solis
Librado Andrade
Breidis Prescott
Hugo Fidel Cazares
Kermit Cintron
Joel Casamayor
Shane Mosley
Vitali Klitschko
Alexander Povetkin
O'Neil Bell
Herbie Hide
Lucian Bute
Fulgencio Zuniga
Joel Julio
Yuriokris Gamboa
James Kirkland
Victor Ortiz

Theres about 40 fighters who all hit harder than Mendoza, few only about 6 fighters on that list you could argue against.

I believe that he has one punch ko power, because he has knocked many opponents out with one punch. There are some genuine power punchers in your list, no doubt, but many are accumalative punchers. Just admit Mendoza has real power, it's ok.

[ICB]

AH YES!!! just going buy what you said dude.. Mendoze cant punch for dookey as far as your concerned because everytime he stepped up he lost..

I know Shavers was great, but I think its ridiculous of your criteria for a power puncher.. I mean cmon man.. Goes to show power alone dosent win fights but dosent mean Mendoza cant punch nor does it mean Lacy has incredibly low punch resistance now because he got hit with bombs from Mendoza

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something. Which is totally different to Earnie Shavers who was arguably in the top 5 strongest era's in boxing history.

Can Mendoza hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near one the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in the top 40 hardest punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was also hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Well Edison Miranda and Sam Peter have never KO'd anyone decent, so they obviously can't punch. Valero only name KO was against the little known Mosquera so he must be regarded as as powder puff as well until he KO's a top level genuine great right?


Anyway onto the fight, I agree with the majority that the odds are heavily stacked against Jeff Lacy for this one, he's clearly not been at his best since the Calzaghe loss.

But I'm a HUGE Jeff Lacy fan, love his heart, his passion and his honesty. In fact he's the only American fighter that get that same kind of passionate pride like I do my favourite English fighters.

He's one of the few fighters I want to see suceed on a personal level before a boxing one.

So even though most have already counted him out, I'll be staying up late to support my boy, whooping, hollaring and yahooing at my monitor screen the whole time.

Between now and Christmas he's probably the one fighter who I want to win more than any other, simply because everyone is discounting him and calling him shot. No fighter in the sport has more courage than Jeff Lacy inside the ring and he will give it 100% for 12 full rounds.

Taylor has much the better pedigree but he does lack self belief himself at times, and unlike Jeff takes time off. I expect Taylor to control the fight early and if Jeff comes at him it may suit him and he could even take Jeff apart. But there is a chance imo that Taylor starts to fade down the stretch and if the fight is in the balance down the final third of the fight I can guarantee that Lacy will be working overtime to try and finish the fight on top.

I'll say this much, if this fight is close going into the 10th round I'd put my house on Jeff Lacy winning the last 2 rounds. He's got more heart than any other American fighter imo and I can see Taylor mentally wilting in the 11th and 12th rounds if the fight is close and Lacy winning by a razor thin split decision. That will be good enough for me

Edison Miranda stopped iron chinned Howard Eastman who had never been stopped, and showed his power against higher quality opposition. Samuel Peter stopped Oleg Maskaev and again has shown his power against higher quality opposition, but i believe Samuel Peter's power is overratted aswell. I don't need to tell you about Edwin Valero you know the answer yourself.

And did you read what i said Bilbo ? i said he could punch i never said he couldn't, i was merely replying to Killersheep's comment that Mendoza hits incredibly hard. Which i disagreed with so i pointed out why he wasn't a world class puncher, and also pointed out why his power was made too look good against Jeff Lacy, because Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter.

[ICB]

Tell you what you what man, make a list of 5 super middleweights that have the one punch KO power of Mendoza and I'll concede the point to you. One punch KO power mind you, not accumulative like Kessler or Andrade

Mendoza hasn't got 1 punch KO power i don't why you believe that. But i think Mikkel Kessler, Carl Froch, Edison Miranda, Alejandro Berrio, Librado Andrade, Lucian Bute, Fulgencio Zuniga, all have strong cases for being bigger punchers than Mendoza. And heres a 40 fighters who i consider harder punchers than Mendoza.

Kelly Pavlik
Juan Manuel Marquez
Manny Pacquiao
Roman Gonzalez
David Haye
Wladimir Klitschko
Samuel Peter
Mikke Kessler
Kelly Pavlik
Antonio Tarver
Arthur Abraham
Andre Berto
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Ricardo Torres
Edwin Valero
Juan Manuel Lopez
Rafael Marquez
Carl Froch
Daniel Ponce De Leon
Edison Miranda
Jhonny Gonzalez
Vic Darchinyan
Enzo Maccarinelli
Ulises Solis
Librado Andrade
Breidis Prescott
Hugo Fidel Cazares
Kermit Cintron
Joel Casamayor
Shane Mosley
Vitali Klitschko
Alexander Povetkin
O'Neil Bell
Herbie Hide
Lucian Bute
Fulgencio Zuniga
Joel Julio
Yuriokris Gamboa
James Kirkland
Victor Ortiz

Theres about 40 fighters who all hit harder than Mendoza, few only about 6 fighters on that list you could argue against.

I believe that he has one punch ko power, because he has knocked many opponents out with one punch. There are some genuine power punchers in your list, no doubt, but many are accumalative punchers. Just admit Mendoza has real power, it's ok.

I never said he didn't had power, why do people keep saying i said he doesn't have power ? i said he doesn't have world class power, nor is he a good opponent. Nor is he anywhere near a title challenger.

[Spicoli]

Oh dear god .luv u long time but Yeh,Im sure Jhonny could drop Lacy if he caught him as well All of those strike me as more refind & schooled hitters than Mendoza but raw power is raw power.

[ICB]

Oh dear god .luv u long time but Yeh,Im sure Jhonny could drop Lacy if he caught him as well All of those strike me as more refind & schooled hitters than Mendoza but raw power is raw power.

I agree with you no way 124 pounds of Mendoza drops 170+ pounds of Jeff Lacy

And as for your other comment Mendoza never dropped Lacy so whats your pount ?

[Kev]

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something. Which is totally different to Earnie Shavers who was arguably in the top 5 strongest era's in boxing history.

Can Mendoza hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near one the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in the top 40 hardest punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was also hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Well Edison Miranda and Sam Peter have never KO'd anyone decent, so they obviously can't punch. Valero only name KO was against the little known Mosquera so he must be regarded as as powder puff as well until he KO's a top level genuine great right?


Anyway onto the fight, I agree with the majority that the odds are heavily stacked against Jeff Lacy for this one, he's clearly not been at his best since the Calzaghe loss.

But I'm a HUGE Jeff Lacy fan, love his heart, his passion and his honesty. In fact he's the only American fighter that get that same kind of passionate pride like I do my favourite English fighters.

He's one of the few fighters I want to see suceed on a personal level before a boxing one.

So even though most have already counted him out, I'll be staying up late to support my boy, whooping, hollaring and yahooing at my monitor screen the whole time.

Between now and Christmas he's probably the one fighter who I want to win more than any other, simply because everyone is discounting him and calling him shot. No fighter in the sport has more courage than Jeff Lacy inside the ring and he will give it 100% for 12 full rounds.

Taylor has much the better pedigree but he does lack self belief himself at times, and unlike Jeff takes time off. I expect Taylor to control the fight early and if Jeff comes at him it may suit him and he could even take Jeff apart. But there is a chance imo that Taylor starts to fade down the stretch and if the fight is in the balance down the final third of the fight I can guarantee that Lacy will be working overtime to try and finish the fight on top.

I'll say this much, if this fight is close going into the 10th round I'd put my house on Jeff Lacy winning the last 2 rounds. He's got more heart than any other American fighter imo and I can see Taylor mentally wilting in the 11th and 12th rounds if the fight is close and Lacy winning by a razor thin split decision. That will be good enough for me

Edison Miranda stopped iron chinned Howard Eastman who had never been stopped, and showed his power against higher quality opposition. Samuel Peter stopped Oleg Maskaev and again has showed his power against higher quality opposition, but i believe Samuel Peter's power is overratted aswell. I don't need to tell you about Edwin Valero you know the answer yourself.

And did you read what i said Bilbo ? i said he could punch i never said he couldn't, i was merely replying to Killersheep's comment of Mendoza hits incredibly hard. Which i disagreed with so i pointed out why he wasn't a world class puncher, and also pointed out why his power was made too look good against Jeff Lacy, because Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter.

Actually the referee stopped Howard Eastman Miranda didn't he was still fighting back when it was stopped

Maskaev is notoriously chinny having been ko'd several times including one round demolitions.

Finally Mendoza rocked Lacy (who UNQUESTIONABLLY has an iron chin seeing as he took over 1000 flush punches from Calzaghe) like no man had ever rocked him before.

Calzaghe even after a 12 round assualt didn't have hurt Lacy as much as Mendoza did when he connected.

The guy hits HARD I don't even know why you are trying to argue against it

There is no shame in being hurt by a big puncher. And a puncher doesn't need to have KO'd great fighters to be considered to hit hard.

Look at Henry Cooper, mediocre record but he came close then anyone else in history to KO'ing a prime Ali, you can't tell me that Big Henry couldn't bang just because he had no wins over greats on his resume

[Spicoli]

Oh dear god .luv u long time but Yeh,Im sure Jhonny could drop Lacy if he caught him as well All of those strike me as more refind & schooled hitters than Mendoza but raw power is raw power.

I agree with you no way 124 pounds of Mendoza drops 170+ pounds of Jeff Lacy

And as for your other comment Mendoza never dropped Lacy so whats your pount ?

Save for a tackle,Lacy was down and stunned very badly.