Taylor-Lacy: All or nothing !!!

[Kev]

JT i think you need to read my post again i never said Mendoza can't punch. I just thought Killersheep was seriously overrating Mendoza's punching power saying "he hits incredibly hard" when thats not the case.

The point i was making about Mendoza never stopping an opponent when he stepped up, except Rubin Williams. Because that shows he hasn't got world class punching power. And considering how weak the Middleweight/Super Middleweight division has been in recent years i think thats saying something. Which is totally different to Earnie Shavers who was arguably in the top 5 strongest era's in boxing history.

Can Mendoza hit ? sure he can do damage but he certainly isn't nowhere near one the top punches in boxing today, i would find it hard to even have him in the top 40 hardest punchers in current day boxing.

Jeff Lacy was wobbling alot in that fight and he was also hurt against Vitali Tsypko, who is no puncher. Thats why im worried about Jeff Lacy's punch resistance.

Well Edison Miranda and Sam Peter have never KO'd anyone decent, so they obviously can't punch. Valero only name KO was against the little known Mosquera so he must be regarded as as powder puff as well until he KO's a top level genuine great right?


Anyway onto the fight, I agree with the majority that the odds are heavily stacked against Jeff Lacy for this one, he's clearly not been at his best since the Calzaghe loss.

But I'm a HUGE Jeff Lacy fan, love his heart, his passion and his honesty. In fact he's the only American fighter that get that same kind of passionate pride like I do my favourite English fighters.

He's one of the few fighters I want to see suceed on a personal level before a boxing one.

So even though most have already counted him out, I'll be staying up late to support my boy, whooping, hollaring and yahooing at my monitor screen the whole time.

Between now and Christmas he's probably the one fighter who I want to win more than any other, simply because everyone is discounting him and calling him shot. No fighter in the sport has more courage than Jeff Lacy inside the ring and he will give it 100% for 12 full rounds.

Taylor has much the better pedigree but he does lack self belief himself at times, and unlike Jeff takes time off. I expect Taylor to control the fight early and if Jeff comes at him it may suit him and he could even take Jeff apart. But there is a chance imo that Taylor starts to fade down the stretch and if the fight is in the balance down the final third of the fight I can guarantee that Lacy will be working overtime to try and finish the fight on top.

I'll say this much, if this fight is close going into the 10th round I'd put my house on Jeff Lacy winning the last 2 rounds. He's got more heart than any other American fighter imo and I can see Taylor mentally wilting in the 11th and 12th rounds if the fight is close and Lacy winning by a razor thin split decision. That will be good enough for me

Edison Miranda stopped iron chinned Howard Eastman who had never been stopped, and showed his power against higher quality opposition. Samuel Peter stopped Oleg Maskaev and again has showed his power against higher quality opposition, but i believe Samuel Peter's power is overratted aswell. I don't need to tell you about Edwin Valero you know the answer yourself.

And did you read what i said Bilbo ? i said he could punch i never said he couldn't, i was merely replying to Killersheep's comment of Mendoza hits incredibly hard. Which i disagreed with so i pointed out why he wasn't a world class puncher, and also pointed out why his power was made too look good against Jeff Lacy, because Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter.

Actually the referee stopped Howard Eastman Miranda didn't he was still fighting back when it was stopped

Maskaev is notoriously chinny having been ko'd several times including one round demolitions.

Finally Mendoza rocked Lacy (who UNQUESTIONABLLY has an iron chin seeing as he took over 1000 flush punches from Calzaghe) like no man had ever rocked him before.

Calzaghe even after a 12 round assualt didn't have hurt Lacy as much as Mendoza did when he connected.

The guy hits HARD I don't even know why you are trying to argue against it

There is no shame in being hurt by a big puncher. And a puncher doesn't need to have KO'd great fighters to be considered to hit hard.

Look at Henry Cooper, mediocre record but he came close then anyone else in history to KO'ing a prime Ali, you can't tell me that Big Henry couldn't bang just because he had no wins over greats on his resume

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Well Edison Miranda and Sam Peter have never KO'd anyone decent, so they obviously can't punch. Valero only name KO was against the little known Mosquera so he must be regarded as as powder puff as well until he KO's a top level genuine great right?


Anyway onto the fight, I agree with the majority that the odds are heavily stacked against Jeff Lacy for this one, he's clearly not been at his best since the Calzaghe loss.

But I'm a HUGE Jeff Lacy fan, love his heart, his passion and his honesty. In fact he's the only American fighter that get that same kind of passionate pride like I do my favourite English fighters.

He's one of the few fighters I want to see suceed on a personal level before a boxing one.

So even though most have already counted him out, I'll be staying up late to support my boy, whooping, hollaring and yahooing at my monitor screen the whole time.

Between now and Christmas he's probably the one fighter who I want to win more than any other, simply because everyone is discounting him and calling him shot. No fighter in the sport has more courage than Jeff Lacy inside the ring and he will give it 100% for 12 full rounds.

Taylor has much the better pedigree but he does lack self belief himself at times, and unlike Jeff takes time off. I expect Taylor to control the fight early and if Jeff comes at him it may suit him and he could even take Jeff apart. But there is a chance imo that Taylor starts to fade down the stretch and if the fight is in the balance down the final third of the fight I can guarantee that Lacy will be working overtime to try and finish the fight on top.

I'll say this much, if this fight is close going into the 10th round I'd put my house on Jeff Lacy winning the last 2 rounds. He's got more heart than any other American fighter imo and I can see Taylor mentally wilting in the 11th and 12th rounds if the fight is close and Lacy winning by a razor thin split decision. That will be good enough for me

Edison Miranda stopped iron chinned Howard Eastman who had never been stopped, and showed his power against higher quality opposition. Samuel Peter stopped Oleg Maskaev and again has showed his power against higher quality opposition, but i believe Samuel Peter's power is overratted aswell. I don't need to tell you about Edwin Valero you know the answer yourself.

And did you read what i said Bilbo ? i said he could punch i never said he couldn't, i was merely replying to Killersheep's comment of Mendoza hits incredibly hard. Which i disagreed with so i pointed out why he wasn't a world class puncher, and also pointed out why his power was made too look good against Jeff Lacy, because Jeff Lacy is a shot fighter.

Actually the referee stopped Howard Eastman Miranda didn't he was still fighting back when it was stopped

Maskaev is notoriously chinny having been ko'd several times including one round demolitions.

Finally Mendoza rocked Lacy (who UNQUESTIONABLLY has an iron chin seeing as he took over 1000 flush punches from Calzaghe) like no man had ever rocked him before.

Calzaghe even after a 12 round assualt didn't have hurt Lacy as much as Mendoza did when he connected.

The guy hits HARD I don't even know why you are trying to argue against it

There is no shame in being hurt by a big puncher. And a puncher doesn't need to have KO'd great fighters to be considered to hit hard.

Look at Henry Cooper, mediocre record but he came close then anyone else in history to KO'ing a prime Ali, you can't tell me that Big Henry couldn't bang just because he had no wins over greats on his resume

Bilbo first off Jeff Lacy never took 1000 flush punches off Joe Calzaghe thats a myth, he landed not even half that amount i don't think according to the stats.

Jeff Lacy was also rocked by a non puncher like Vitali Tsypko which proves, his punch resistance is very shaky lately.

Im putting this in bold considering people keep saying, im saying Mendoza can't hit hard. I said he isn't a world class puncher, i never said he couldn't hit.