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southakron314
People always try this and it never holds water. How do you think Ruth and Cobb would do in todays baseball game. Or Nameth. They would get owned. Pavlik would beat Hearns, Manzon , McC and maybe Hagler. He would beat SRR and Lamatta. he would bury Harry Greb. He would have a tough time with Jones Jr. Hopkins in his prime , and Toney and he beats Calzaghe. PAVLIK HAS NOT EVEN HIT HIS PRIME YET. HE IS JUST GETTING INTO HIS PRIME.
I normally like you as a poster but you can't be serious ? how many fights have you seen of Carlos Monzon ? the man was a beast and arguably the best Middleweight of all time. He is similar to Kelly Pavlik style wise but he has the much better chin and i would say he is physically stronger than Kelly Pavlik aswell. And he would be forcing Kelly Pavlik on the backfoot and stop Pavlik late on.
Thomas Hearns has a suspect chin so Kelly Pavlik does have a chance, but i think its more likely Thomas Hearns lands his famous right hand. And lays out Kelly Pavlik inside of 3 rounds.
Marvin Hagler in his younger days was a great boxing/puncher, he could counter punch very well. But more importantly he was also very strong and his chin was out of this world. I think Marvin Hagler outboxes Kelly Pavlik and takes a decision or a late stoppage.
SRR ? you can't be serious he may be somewhat overrated at Middleweight, but he had excellent movement, great handspeed. And a granite chin he would lay out Kelly Pavlik inside of 8.
Jake Lamotta ? im not so sure of but Jake Lamotta did have a great chin and kept on coming, and was also physically very strong. But he did get hit too much for my liking but it would be a closely fought fight IMO.
RJJ ? just a tough time ? don't make me laugh Kelly Pavlik would get brutalized by a prime RJJ. RJJ is possibly one of the most talented fighters to have ever lived, and he was one of the quickest boxers P4P ever if not the quickest. Are you seriously trying to tell me this fight is even debatable ?
A young Bernard Hopkins is like Marvin Hagler in some ways, except i think he is a bit more of skilled pressure fighter than Marvin Hagler was. Plus a prime Bernard Hopkins has a great chin along with great boxing skills, and great workrate. He is far too skilled for Kelly Pavlik.
I would love to know how you think Kelly Pavlik beats Harry Greb, because there is no footage of Harry Greb not even one fight. So how can you judge this fight ?
James Toney vs Kelly Pavlik ? see James Toney vs Iran Barkley. Although Kelly Pavlik throws his punches straighter than Iran Barkey. Kelly Pavlik would still get countered all night long just like Iran Barkley did, who was a big strong powerful puncher like Kelly Pavlik was, and i see Kelly Pavlik getting a boxing lesson over 12 rounds.
Joe Calzaghe ? Pavlik would have a chance against Joe Calzaghe, because Joe Calzaghe can't seem to get away from straight right hands, but a prime Joe Calzaghe was faster and had much more power. It would be close but i feel Joe Calzaghe is a much better all round boxer and he would win a tough decision.
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