kelly pavlik against past middle and light heavyweights

[Deanrw]

Grant caught him flush early in 1st and it was sad ending for an all time great,claimed ankle injury off ring apron.Delgado also belted him around plenty.Imo though,I think Kelly makes more mistakes than Hearns and Tommy can capitalize.

Well he had better try keeping those mistakes to a minimum against Bernard, because old Bernard is still Bernard of old early in a fight and will capitalize

[Deanrw]

Here is an interesting picture regarding reach. Pavlik and Hopkins are both listed as having a 75" reach. If you look at this photo though, you will see a fairly considerable arm length advantage for one of them. Who is it?hehe

[DaxxKahn]

Here is an interesting picture regarding reach. Pavlik and Hopkins are both listed as having a 75" reach. If you look at this photo though, you will see a fairly considerable arm length advantage for one of them. Who is it?hehe

Thats why stats are now given for fingertip to fingertip and armpit tp fingertip

[Deanrw]

Here is an interesting picture regarding reach. Pavlik and Hopkins are both listed as having a 75" reach. If you look at this photo though, you will see a fairly considerable arm length advantage for one of them. Who is it?hehe

Thats why stats are now given for fingertip to fingertip and armpit tp fingertip

Armpit to end of fist would probably be the best measurement. Reach is useless though without the ability to utilize it properly. Pavlik gives that reach up when he steps in to punch. That is where Hopkins has his best chance. He will get to Pavlik, but the question is will he have enough to finish what he started. If he does not, Pavlik will eventually wear him down.

[Spicoli]

Im calling phony pic.......Hopkins looks all welted up & mashed,Why does Bernard look lioke a swollen Toney

[Deanrw]

Im calling phony pic.......Hopkins looks all welted up & mashed,Why does Bernard look lioke a swollen Toney

It's not photoshopped, but he just looks that way because he is standing next to a skeleton!LOL

[kingfrnk]

kelly looks pissed a lil

[Youngblood]

I'm a huge Pavlik fan, but think it is too early in his career to start mentioning him in the same breath with names like Hearns and Hagler etc.

I hope to see him earn that right, and in fact even believe he will get there. But for now, he's fighting Bernard Hopkins, a wily but overage fighter. When Kelly's record and career can be spoken in the same breath with legends, we'll have known more of it. At his age and experience, he has a lot more fighting to do. And I can't wait to see it.