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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    Haye will kill the klits.

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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    I would pick Haye over Peter.

    But not Vitali, sucks, I would love it if he beat him and got rid of Vitali for good but he probably wouldn't.

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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    Think Haye would handle Peter without much difficulty but not so sure about - Vitali; probably too much size and punch resistance for David's liking. Vladmir is a much more appealing target.

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    David Haye is fighting MONTE BARRETT who at best lost decisions to Mesi and Whittaker and Wlad put him down 5 times but since those glory days he's been KO'd by Cliff Couser and Nicolay Valuev.


    I enjoy you Haye fans you're hyping up a guy who has NEVER fought a top level heavyweight and after he fights Monte Barrett he STILL won't have fought a top rated heavyweight.


    Vitali took Lennox Lewis' best shots I HIGHLY doubt Haye will bring anything more to the table. David Haye gets hit too much and if he has an Amir Kahn moment vs Monte Barrett then you guys had better hide for a couple years because I won't let you hear the end of it!

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    Haha, for once I kind of agree with Lyle. I'm a fan of Haye and cannot stand any other heavyweight (unless you consider Toney to still be active) but the hype is getting a little out of control considering he hasn't even fought any thing close to even a top twenty heavyweight.

    He may end up coming well, I hope he does but for now he's an unknown.

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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    Of course I did pick him to beat Peter so maybe I'm adding to the hype. Its more that I just think Peter sucks really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    David Haye is fighting MONTE BARRETT who at best lost decisions to Mesi and Whittaker and Wlad put him down 5 times but since those glory days he's been KO'd by Cliff Couser and Nicolay Valuev.


    I enjoy you Haye fans you're hyping up a guy who has NEVER fought a top level heavyweight and after he fights Monte Barrett he STILL won't have fought a top rated heavyweight.


    Vitali took Lennox Lewis' best shots I HIGHLY doubt Haye will bring anything more to the table. David Haye gets hit too much and if he has an Amir Kahn moment vs Monte Barrett then you guys had better hide for a couple years because I won't let you hear the end of it!
    WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.
    All those guys earned their shots

    Tony Thompson - Beat Guinn, Timor Ibragimov, and Luan Krasniqi back to back to back. Had never been KO'd before either and he was a mandatory Wlad didn't want to fight AND he was a 6'5 SOUTHPAW who NOBODY wants to fight, not because of power but because of strength, size, and he's awkward.

    Ray Austin - Had an eliminator bout with Sultan Ibragimov and fought Sultan to a draw and Sultan chose to fight for one belt and Tony fought for Wlad's belt. Once again a mandatory who Wlad finished without ever throwing his moneymaker right cross...that was a devistating KO.

    Jameel McCline - beat Michael Grant, Lance Whittaker, and Shannon Briggs back to back to back to get a shot vs Wladimir. McCline is obviously still a solid heavyweight having given Sam Peter the fight of his life not too long ago and I think had McCline's knee not given out vs Valuev he would have beaten him.

    All those guys are SOLID heavyweights, over 6'4 and over 240 pounds....it would be much more telling if David Haye fought one of them instead of Monte Barrett who is like Haye a little too small and a little too old to be a contender these days.


    Until David Haye steps foot in the ring with a good heavyweight he's still a cruiserweight in my eyes...and an untested one at that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.
    All those guys earned their shots

    Tony Thompson - Beat Guinn, Timor Ibragimov, and Luan Krasniqi back to back to back. Had never been KO'd before either and he was a mandatory Wlad didn't want to fight AND he was a 6'5 SOUTHPAW who NOBODY wants to fight, not because of power but because of strength, size, and he's awkward.

    Ray Austin - Had an eliminator bout with Sultan Ibragimov and fought Sultan to a draw and Sultan chose to fight for one belt and Tony fought for Wlad's belt. Once again a mandatory who Wlad finished without ever throwing his moneymaker right cross...that was a devistating KO.

    Jameel McCline - beat Michael Grant, Lance Whittaker, and Shannon Briggs back to back to back to get a shot vs Wladimir. McCline is obviously still a solid heavyweight having given Sam Peter the fight of his life not too long ago and I think had McCline's knee not given out vs Valuev he would have beaten him.

    All those guys are SOLID heavyweights, over 6'4 and over 240 pounds....it would be much more telling if David Haye fought one of them instead of Monte Barrett who is like Haye a little too small and a little too old to be a contender these days.


    Until David Haye steps foot in the ring with a good heavyweight he's still a cruiserweight in my eyes...and an untested one at that
    You make them 3 sound like hall of famers

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.
    Lefty, this is just plain out silly. Rule no. 1) Don't use alphabet rankings as an argument for anything. Rule no. 2) Especially not when using rankings actually count against the argument, you are trying to make.

    [Thompson was WBO number 1 (and mandatory) when Wlad fought him. Ray Austin was IBF number 1 (and mandatory). Dunno about McCline, but he was probably rated highly at some point too.]

    Are we gonna see John Ruiz-apologists next? "WBA number 6. Not a bum."

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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    People are forgetting that Lennox was old but that does not mean he can not have power that is the last thing to go just as Forman. As for Haye does no one rember he could not get past a old 40 year old cruiserweight no one ever brings that up Vitali while crush him just another british hype job and i can not wait for Vitali to end it going to be funney thing to see.

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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    I thought Peter and Vitali fought to their usual level. Peter's a limited plodder.. his only chance was Vitali showing severe ring rust - obviously that didn't happen.

    Haye's success at heavyweight will be decided by the effect his bombs have on fighters chins.. Vitali has always shown a granite chin.

    I would make Haye a BIG underdog against Vitali.. in fact i'd be SHOCKED if he beat him.

    It would be a travesty though if a fighter with Haye's ability couldn't beat Peter.
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    I see Sam Peter-David Haye as a toss up right now. Sure Peter is slow and can't box but Haye is vulnerable to letting himself get hit too often and if Sam is able to keep "touching" (as Teddy Atlas puts it) Haye then David will have a FULL FIGHT on his hands. Sam has a great chin and well frankly we have no clue about what David Haye can and cannot take.

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    Default Re: Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I see Sam Peter-David Haye as a toss up right now. Sure Peter is slow and can't box but Haye is vulnerable to letting himself get hit too often and if Sam is able to keep "touching" (as Teddy Atlas puts it) Haye then David will have a FULL FIGHT on his hands. Sam has a great chin and well frankly we have no clue about what David Haye can and cannot take.
    If Haye gets past Barrett (which he should), I'd like to see that fight. It would be a good indicator of where both fighters stand in the division. I would *think* Haye would win, but you never know.

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