Haye would have beaten Peter and Vitali

[leftylee]

David Haye is fighting MONTE BARRETT who at best lost decisions to Mesi and Whittaker and Wlad put him down 5 times but since those glory days he's been KO'd by Cliff Couser and Nicolay Valuev.


I enjoy you Haye fans you're hyping up a guy who has NEVER fought a top level heavyweight and after he fights Monte Barrett he STILL won't have fought a top rated heavyweight.


Vitali took Lennox Lewis' best shots I HIGHLY doubt Haye will bring anything more to the table. David Haye gets hit too much and if he has an Amir Kahn moment vs Monte Barrett then you guys had better hide for a couple years because I won't let you hear the end of it!

WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.

[El Kabong]

WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.

All those guys earned their shots

Tony Thompson - Beat Guinn, Timor Ibragimov, and Luan Krasniqi back to back to back. Had never been KO'd before either and he was a mandatory Wlad didn't want to fight AND he was a 6'5 SOUTHPAW who NOBODY wants to fight, not because of power but because of strength, size, and he's awkward.

Ray Austin - Had an eliminator bout with Sultan Ibragimov and fought Sultan to a draw and Sultan chose to fight for one belt and Tony fought for Wlad's belt. Once again a mandatory who Wlad finished without ever throwing his moneymaker right cross...that was a devistating KO.

Jameel McCline - beat Michael Grant, Lance Whittaker, and Shannon Briggs back to back to back to get a shot vs Wladimir. McCline is obviously still a solid heavyweight having given Sam Peter the fight of his life not too long ago and I think had McCline's knee not given out vs Valuev he would have beaten him.

All those guys are SOLID heavyweights, over 6'4 and over 240 pounds....it would be much more telling if David Haye fought one of them instead of Monte Barrett who is like Haye a little too small and a little too old to be a contender these days.


Until David Haye steps foot in the ring with a good heavyweight he's still a cruiserweight in my eyes...and an untested one at that

[leftylee]

WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.

All those guys earned their shots

Tony Thompson - Beat Guinn, Timor Ibragimov, and Luan Krasniqi back to back to back. Had never been KO'd before either and he was a mandatory Wlad didn't want to fight AND he was a 6'5 SOUTHPAW who NOBODY wants to fight, not because of power but because of strength, size, and he's awkward.

Ray Austin - Had an eliminator bout with Sultan Ibragimov and fought Sultan to a draw and Sultan chose to fight for one belt and Tony fought for Wlad's belt. Once again a mandatory who Wlad finished without ever throwing his moneymaker right cross...that was a devistating KO.

Jameel McCline - beat Michael Grant, Lance Whittaker, and Shannon Briggs back to back to back to get a shot vs Wladimir. McCline is obviously still a solid heavyweight having given Sam Peter the fight of his life not too long ago and I think had McCline's knee not given out vs Valuev he would have beaten him.

All those guys are SOLID heavyweights, over 6'4 and over 240 pounds....it would be much more telling if David Haye fought one of them instead of Monte Barrett who is like Haye a little too small and a little too old to be a contender these days.


Until David Haye steps foot in the ring with a good heavyweight he's still a cruiserweight in my eyes...and an untested one at that

You make them 3 sound like hall of famers

[El Kabong]

Compared to Monte Barrett they might be

[WelshDevilRob]

Watching from his training camp vantage point in Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus, world heavyweight title contender David Haye will have studied every minute of the eight rounds it took for incumbent World Boxing Council heavyweight Samuel Peter to be out-thought, out-fought and ultimately outclassed in Berlin by Vitali Klitschko on Saturday night.

‘Dr Ironfist’ is back. The heavy division is heating up. And Haye insists he can defeat both Klitschko brothers, disclosing to Telegraph Sport that he has the style – and speed - to unseat both champions, who now share three of the four major sanctioning body belts. The fighting Klitschkos have become the first boxing brothers in history to simultaneously hold heavyweight world title belts. The only belt outside their grasp is the WBA title, held by giant Russian Nicolay Valuev.

Ask Haye, and he’ll happily fell all three giants. Haye, who debuts as a heavyweight bill-topper at the 02 Arena, Greenwich on November 15, against American Monte Barrett, is convinced he has “the tools to defeat both Klitschkos”.

Haye said: “Give me Wladimir first, then I’ll take on the older brother. Neither of them has the speed I can show them, and they are both vulnerable.”

[SEB]

Haye would beat both klitchko ?? I first, honestly doubt he'll do any good against peter. Peter looked shitty yesterday night for sure, but if he can put his fists on Haye (who is not that taller) it might be a different story. even if I think haye can simply beat the hell out of Peter, peter has good power, and haye a soft chin.

Haye has been put on his butt against Mormeck, who is far from the power of Klitchko brothers...if a Mormeck can put him down, someone with klitchko power would almost decapitate him...

David Haye is a good fighter and he has a incredible power in both hands, he has the puncher chance agaisnt wladimir, but nothing more...in my eyes....

If haye was really desperate by finding an opponent, he could have ask to Oliander Solis, who knocked haye out during the olympic....but he might have forgot his name :-)

[rjj tszyu]

Haye would beat both klitchko ?? I first, honestly doubt he'll do any good against peter. Peter looked shitty yesterday night for sure, but if he can put his fists on Haye (who is not that taller) it might be a different story. even if I think haye can simply beat the hell out of Peter, peter has good power, and haye a soft chin.

Haye has been put on his butt against Mormeck, who is far from the power of Klitchko brothers...if a Mormeck can put him down, someone with klitchko power would almost decapitate him...

David Haye is a good fighter and he has a incredible power in both hands, he has the puncher chance agaisnt wladimir, but nothing more...in my eyes....

If haye was really desperate by finding an opponent, he could have ask to Oliander Solis, who knocked haye out during the olympic....but he might have forgot his name :-)

Oh and Wlads got an absolute fucking Iron chin

[Kev]

Compared to Monte Barrett they might be

It's possibly the first time this has happened but regarding Haye's chances against Vitali I'm 100% in agreement with Lyle.

I'll say it now Haye has NO CHANCE, ZERO, NONE WHATSOEVER to beat Vitali Klitschko. He would get absolutely battered inside 5 or 6 rounds.

Let's be real here, even Haye's fans are slightly concerned about him facing Mionte Barret, Barrett is seen as a risky opponent for him. Virtually everyone else at heavyweight would be seen as a risk for him too. I can't find any odds for the Haye Monte fight yet but I imagine Barret will propably be around 9/4 or 5/2 odds, similar to the odds of Roy Jones against Calzaghe.

Put Barrett in with either Klitschko and the odds would likely be about 33/1 or the same as Bruce Seldon against Mike Tyson, seriously now what does that tell you?

There is a very good chance, in fact even likely, that Haye will get knocked out even before he gets to either Klitschko so let's keep our feet on the ground just a little here.

Haye will probably get past Monte Barrett and can then look at fighting an opponent who is at least relavent to the heavyweight division (Barret isn't).

I don't see Haye getting past a slick fighter like Eddie Chambers he won't eeven get as far as challenging Vitali let alone have a chane of beating him.

[Mikkel_K]

WBO number 6. Not a bum. Unlike Tony Thompson and Ray Austin and Jameel McCline Dr Slap has fought.

Lefty, this is just plain out silly. Rule no. 1) Don't use alphabet rankings as an argument for anything. Rule no. 2) Especially not when using rankings actually count against the argument, you are trying to make.

[Thompson was WBO number 1 (and mandatory) when Wlad fought him. Ray Austin was IBF number 1 (and mandatory). Dunno about McCline, but he was probably rated highly at some point too.]

Are we gonna see John Ruiz-apologists next? "WBA number 6. Not a bum."

[Mr140]

People are forgetting that Lennox was old but that does not mean he can not have power that is the last thing to go just as Forman. As for Haye does no one rember he could not get past a old 40 year old cruiserweight no one ever brings that up Vitali while crush him just another british hype job and i can not wait for Vitali to end it going to be funney thing to see.