Curious...How does everyone here think the P4P rankings work?

[DaxxKahn]

The correct way to assess a fighter's worth is quality of opponents, dominating a division, fighting and beating the best in their respective divisions, being unbeaten, number of defenses, number of belts, number of weight classes and length of reign.



Very good assesment except the unbeaten factor does not really need apply,,,,Guys can go unbeaten for long periods of time but not be considered P4P...EG- Chris John.......

Having losses on your record does not disqualify you from P4P it is who you lost to that is important...

If an elite fighter loses to a decent fighter it proves nothing if the elite fighter continues on his ways come the next fights...

Anyone can have an off night or 2 in their careers...fighters like everyone else are entitled to it......It also does not mean the guy who beat them that 1 night is P4P worthy

[Kev]

The correct way to assess a fighter's worth is quality of opponents, dominating a division, fighting and beating the best in their respective divisions, being unbeaten, number of defenses, number of belts, number of weight classes and length of reign.



Very good assesment except the unbeaten factor does not really need apply,,,,Guys can go unbeaten for long periods of time but not be considered P4P...EG- Chris John.......

Having losses on your record does not disqualify you from P4P it is who you lost to that is important...

If an elite fighter loses to a decent fighter it proves nothing if the elite fighter continues on his ways come the next fights...

Anyone can have an off night or 2 in their careers...fighters like everyone else are entitled to it......It also does not mean the guy who beat them that 1 night is P4P worthy

I think you're missing what I'm saying a bit. Not losing IS an important part of a p4p assessment. If it were not Shane Mosely and Oscar De La Hoya would still be near the top of the p4p.

B Hop would be number 1 p4p in the world and Hatton wouldn't have dropped out of the list.

I'm not saying that once a fighter is beaten they cannot be p4p, not at all that is absurd, but of course to be considered a great fighter you have to win fights.

As for Calzaghe the fact that he has reigned for so long, had so many defenses and never lost of course all factor into the equation when assessing his status and position in the p4p rankings.

[DaxxKahn]

The correct way to assess a fighter's worth is quality of opponents, dominating a division, fighting and beating the best in their respective divisions, being unbeaten, number of defenses, number of belts, number of weight classes and length of reign.



Very good assesment except the unbeaten factor does not really need apply,,,,Guys can go unbeaten for long periods of time but not be considered P4P...EG- Chris John.......

Having losses on your record does not disqualify you from P4P it is who you lost to that is important...

If an elite fighter loses to a decent fighter it proves nothing if the elite fighter continues on his ways come the next fights...

Anyone can have an off night or 2 in their careers...fighters like everyone else are entitled to it......It also does not mean the guy who beat them that 1 night is P4P worthy

I think you're missing what I'm saying a bit. Not losing IS an important part of a p4p assessment. If it were not Shane Mosely and Oscar De La Hoya would still be near the top of the p4p.

B Hop would be number 1 p4p in the world and Hatton wouldn't have dropped out of the list.

I'm not saying that once a fighter is beaten they cannot be p4p, not at all that is absurd, but of course to be considered a great fighter you have to win fights.

As for Calzaghe the fact that he has reigned for so long, had so many defenses and never lost of course all factor into the equation when assessing his status and position in the p4p rankings.

I understand you mate...I am pretty much in agreement