Wow people actually go on here?

[Taeth]

First of all, you're not nearly as gay as Preme. You actually know something about boxing. You've annoyed me plenty, and your strong mancrushes on a few fighters are borderline. You belong on the list, but your not #1.

Here's the problem. You have a preference for a certain type of fighting style and you get a big raging hard-on from fighters with superior athletic ability. You condecendingly dismiss fighters who don't fight in the style that is most pleasing to you. As somebody who has been reading your posts for three years, you seem to lack appreciation for the intangibles that can make a fighter better that other fighters with greater textbook skill or athletic ability. You accuse other people of being nuthuggers, but when it comes to fighters that are your favorites, you are as big a nuthugger as they come.

Perhaps you have and I misses the post, but I really never seen you be particulary openminded to other peoples ideas or analysis, and often, you are completely dismissive and surly at other peoples reasonable conclusions and opinions.

I think that's why you won the gay-off. While you are certainly a very good poster, knowledgable, and valued member of the forum, you've been around a while and in the process pissed of almost everyone, not only with your opinions, but also your self-important, arrogant tone. In way, you are doing something right, because you get people fired up and often stimulate debate, but when you treat people like they are stupid, especially people who are equally knowledgable, it's not going to make you the most well liked guy.

Personally, I hope you keep on posting just like you always have, and I'm sure you will. We need a few arrogant pricks like you and VD, at least ones who understand the sport. And I don't think people are taking too serious. They are probably trying to wind you up because you spend so much time winding up other people. It's all in good fun.

Except the stuff about Preme. He really is gay, and those of us who dislike him actually, in reality, dislike him (or at least his online persona). I wouldn't care if never posted here again because he never says anything informative or interesting. You, on the other hand, though irritating, contribute a lot to the forum.

That is my persona on here, I find it frustrating that I put so much time into learning the sport and still have ignorant people arguing with me. I act in the manner I do because people aren't see whats there. For example the Oscar-Trinidad fight, people start saying that it was a close fight, and I show that there were no close rounds early, or people think that Dela Hoya-Mayweather was a close fight, it pisses me off because it seems uneducated. Now when its a dumbass I dismiss them as such, but when its with people who I respect then I tend to be more obnoxious because I don't understand how these people aren't seeing what I am seeing, and I try to, through sheer force of will, force my (correct) views on them.

As for what I like in a fighter. If your life is fighting you have no right not to become as good as you can, and I see the effectiveness of guys like Margarito, but its not pleasing to me. He just comes off as a brute, I have never found watching somebody just walk through punches particularly appealing. Why should you be doing that? At least keep your hands, or use some head movement or something. I give more respect to a guy like Hatton who at least developed technique. I will never respect the Mayorga's of the sport because they don't even try to get better. I am not a bloodthirsty fan, I don't want to see both guys cut and taking a ton of punches, I appretiate the art behind boxing, from Pavlik to Kessler to Roy Jones Jr to Whitaker to Trinidad to Winky Wright to Mike Tyson to Holyfield. I hate when fighters don't maximize their potential or fight stupidly, and I feel 90% of brawlers do that.

[Kev]

First of all, you're not nearly as gay as Preme. You actually know something about boxing. You've annoyed me plenty, and your strong mancrushes on a few fighters are borderline. You belong on the list, but your not #1.

Here's the problem. You have a preference for a certain type of fighting style and you get a big raging hard-on from fighters with superior athletic ability. You condecendingly dismiss fighters who don't fight in the style that is most pleasing to you. As somebody who has been reading your posts for three years, you seem to lack appreciation for the intangibles that can make a fighter better that other fighters with greater textbook skill or athletic ability. You accuse other people of being nuthuggers, but when it comes to fighters that are your favorites, you are as big a nuthugger as they come.

Perhaps you have and I misses the post, but I really never seen you be particulary openminded to other peoples ideas or analysis, and often, you are completely dismissive and surly at other peoples reasonable conclusions and opinions.

I think that's why you won the gay-off. While you are certainly a very good poster, knowledgable, and valued member of the forum, you've been around a while and in the process pissed of almost everyone, not only with your opinions, but also your self-important, arrogant tone. In way, you are doing something right, because you get people fired up and often stimulate debate, but when you treat people like they are stupid, especially people who are equally knowledgable, it's not going to make you the most well liked guy.

Personally, I hope you keep on posting just like you always have, and I'm sure you will. We need a few arrogant pricks like you and VD, at least ones who understand the sport. And I don't think people are taking too serious. They are probably trying to wind you up because you spend so much time winding up other people. It's all in good fun.

Except the stuff about Preme. He really is gay, and those of us who dislike him actually, in reality, dislike him (or at least his online persona). I wouldn't care if never posted here again because he never says anything informative or interesting. You, on the other hand, though irritating, contribute a lot to the forum.

That is my persona on here, I find it frustrating that I put so much time into learning the sport and still have ignorant people arguing with me. I act in the manner I do because people aren't see whats there. For example the Oscar-Trinidad fight, people start saying that it was a close fight, and I show that there were no close rounds early, or people think that Dela Hoya-Mayweather was a close fight, it pisses me off because it seems uneducated. Now when its a dumbass I dismiss them as such, but when its with people who I respect then I tend to be more obnoxious because I don't understand how these people aren't seeing what I am seeing, and I try to, through sheer force of will, force my (correct) views on them.

As for what I like in a fighter. If your life is fighting you have no right not to become as good as you can, and I see the effectiveness of guys like Margarito, but its not pleasing to me. He just comes off as a brute, I have never found watching somebody just walk through punches particularly appealing. Why should you be doing that? At least keep your hands, or use some head movement or something. I give more respect to a guy like Hatton who at least developed technique. I will never respect the Mayorga's of the sport because they don't even try to get better. I am not a bloodthirsty fan, I don't want to see both guys cut and taking a ton of punches, I appretiate the art behind boxing, from Pavlik to Kessler to Roy Jones Jr to Whitaker to Trinidad to Winky Wright to Mike Tyson to Holyfield. I hate when fighters don't maximize their potential or fight stupidly, and I feel 90% of brawlers do that.

This makes no sense at all. You dismiss as dumbasses everyone who thought those fights were close but then say that Hopkins beat Jermain Taylor emphatically in the first fight

So I guess you saw Hopkins winning some of those first 8 rounds then, I'd love to know which ones.................

[Taeth]

Um I didn't say Hopkins beat Taylor emphatically, can you read? I said Cory Spinks and Winky WRight did. Also for somebody who is questioning my knowledge of boxing, your analysis of almost everything is wrong. I am not sure if oyu have actually watched a fight or not, but it would certainly make your posts more contributive.

[Kev]

Um I didn't say Hopkins beat Taylor emphatically, can you read? I said Cory Spinks and Winky WRight did. Also for somebody who is questioning my knowledge of boxing, your analysis of almost everything is wrong. I am not sure if oyu have actually watched a fight or not, but it would certainly make your posts more contributive.

I rarely venture onto the boxing talk board any more and most of analysis is related to my sexual misadventures and political and religious views.

Of course with you watching over 100 fights per week you clearly have no time for a social life of any kind and so have nothing to post on the other boards.

In the light of this, the fact that you still know virtually nothing about the sport is a bit disconcerting.

But I'm sure you'll tell me that you're an armchair expert with real ring experience and have been lacing up the gloves since before you could walk.

[boozeboxer]

Um I didn't say Hopkins beat Taylor emphatically, can you read? I said Cory Spinks and Winky WRight did. Also for somebody who is questioning my knowledge of boxing, your analysis of almost everything is wrong. I am not sure if oyu have actually watched a fight or not, but it would certainly make your posts more contributive.

I rarely venture onto the boxing talk board any more and most of analysis is related to my sexual misadventures and political and religious views.

Of course with you watching over 100 fights per week you clearly have no time for a social life of any kind and so have nothing to post on the other boards.

In the light of this, the fact that you still know virtually nothing about the sport is a bit disconcerting.

But I'm sure you'll tell me that you're an armchair expert with real ring experience and have been lacing up the gloves since before you could walk.

I loved the qoute in Rozzy's post "I think that is why you won the gay-off."

Can you imagine Taeth telling his mum about what his accomplishments were for the day at dinner?

[Taeth]

Um I didn't say Hopkins beat Taylor emphatically, can you read? I said Cory Spinks and Winky WRight did. Also for somebody who is questioning my knowledge of boxing, your analysis of almost everything is wrong. I am not sure if oyu have actually watched a fight or not, but it would certainly make your posts more contributive.

I rarely venture onto the boxing talk board any more and most of analysis is related to my sexual misadventures and political and religious views.

Of course with you watching over 100 fights per week you clearly have no time for a social life of any kind and so have nothing to post on the other boards.

In the light of this, the fact that you still know virtually nothing about the sport is a bit disconcerting.

But I'm sure you'll tell me that you're an armchair expert with real ring experience and have been lacing up the gloves since before you could walk.

I know 10x as much about boxing as you do, and I have plenty of time for socializing I just bring boxing with me. I am taking three courses this semester, I don't work, I have plenty of time to watch boxing.

[Kev]

Um I didn't say Hopkins beat Taylor emphatically, can you read? I said Cory Spinks and Winky WRight did. Also for somebody who is questioning my knowledge of boxing, your analysis of almost everything is wrong. I am not sure if oyu have actually watched a fight or not, but it would certainly make your posts more contributive.

I rarely venture onto the boxing talk board any more and most of analysis is related to my sexual misadventures and political and religious views.

Of course with you watching over 100 fights per week you clearly have no time for a social life of any kind and so have nothing to post on the other boards.

In the light of this, the fact that you still know virtually nothing about the sport is a bit disconcerting.

But I'm sure you'll tell me that you're an armchair expert with real ring experience and have been lacing up the gloves since before you could walk.

I know 10x as much about boxing as you do, and I have plenty of time for socializing I just bring boxing with me. I am taking three courses this semester, I don't work, I have plenty of time to watch boxing.

Great I'm impressed, really I am. It would be nice if you could share your knowledge on the forum occasionally though instead of your usual pointless posts.

Glad your social life is working out for you and that when you go out you take boxing with you. Some might think that obsessive, even nuts but as long as your happy that's all good.

[Kev]

Oh and remember, whilst you may boast that you know 10 x more about boxing than me or other members, in the eyes of the Saddo majority, you are officially the gayest member on the whole site for 2008.