I also saw Pavlik walk around the ring without even using his jab and his right hand. What the fuck was the matter with him?Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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I also saw Pavlik walk around the ring without even using his jab and his right hand. What the fuck was the matter with him?
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he could not land a clean shot, the lateral movement was spectacular...
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I missed the stream. My only guess is that Hopkins saw Pavlik just as a come forward type fighter and killed him with side-to-side movement. Pavlik better get back to the drawing board quick.
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Even calzaghe had problems at times with hopkins speed and mobility. If hopkins can make calzaghes output go down he can make a lot of fighters output go down. What gets me is how did jermaine taylor make it look so easy to beat hopkins?
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Hopkins fought an exceptional fight. He made Pavlik look like an amateur in there. But lets not forget a few things about Hopkins recent performances.
Since his move up to light heavyweight he has had 4 fights. For me the Tarver fight is his only significant win at the weight. Tarver was a genuine LHW and Hopkins breezed past him. Great win. Calzaghe actually beat Hopkins quite clearly. Winky was way out of his weight class though. And here we have Pavlik, though a big guy, he really is just a middleweight at this point.
Hopkins schooled Pavlik, and it was a great performance, but there is so much calculation in how Hopkins goes about matchmaking. I really dont think he really expected Calzaghe could be so good, and Im sure he's still in denial about it today. It was a good win, but lets not forget the realities of the situation.
Hopkins is creating the illusion of making "great" wins by asking fighters to step almost 2 weight classes outside what they normally fight at. It seems to be a Golden Boy art these days with Oscar leading the way. I know that sounds cynical but its the way it is.
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Miles, bro, let's not rob Hopkins of the win he deservedly got today. It was an excellent show of technical skill. Taylor was unable to do it against Pavlik.
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Ive always told people that Kelly was only a 1-2 puncher and the moment he fought someone with good movement he would look silly, he doesnt cover enough angles with his punches. I thought BHOP would be the guy to expose that, but didn't think he'd win because he wouldn't have the workrate.
Not only did bhop expose it, but he suprised me by keeping it up for 12 rounds, something i DID NOT expect. Atleast my prediction on kelly's weakness was correct. Go bhop
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Im not robbing anybody. I said Hopkins schooled Pavlik and said it was an exceptional performance. He is 43, it is remarkable.Miles, bro, let's not rob Hopkins of the win he deservedly got today. It was an excellent show of technical skill. Taylor was unable to do it against Pavlik.
But I think my arguments stand up. And its only right that constructive criticism plays a part in the aftermath. There is always room for questioning.
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Pav should have brought an apple for Hopkins....he was schooled in all honesty.Countered at nearly every move.
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Pavlik was either just plain shit or paid offThe lateral movement and handspeed did it all.
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Thats predictable reaction ? Come on man.Exactly how many times was Pavlik called plain shite prior to the fight,He is not.He was out thought and out fought be a much more advanced and multi geared Fighter albeit one that is as old as dirt.Pavlik was either just plain shit or paid offThe lateral movement and handspeed did it all.
Last edited by Spicoli; 10-19-2008 at 04:04 AM.
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damn. i tip my hat off to hopkins he beat the crap outta kelly
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He was fighting Hopkins, that is was what was the matter with him.I also saw Pavlik walk around the ring without even using his jab and his right hand. What the fuck was the matter with him?
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Ok, Calzaghe's stock just went up thenHe was fighting Hopkins, that is was what was the matter with him.I also saw Pavlik walk around the ring without even using his jab and his right hand. What the fuck was the matter with him?
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