Vindication is sweet.

[WelshDevilRob]

He needs to concentrate on the Middleweight division where he still has a big fight with Arthur Abraham waiting for him.

He has skills, size, power and is still the best Middleweight in the World.

I think with time and experience he will become tactically better and more seasoned and while this is a setback it is one he can comeback from and get better.

Nobody has an easy fight with Hopkins and only the very best beat him i.e Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe.

[Taeth]

Except that Joe didn't beat him.

[Markusdarkus]

Except that Joe didn't beat him.

Please go away you petty moron Calzaghe won!

As for a plus he has his 160lb belts the rest is bad he looked slow, sloppy, ploddy and chinny.

[Taeth]

Except that Joe didn't beat him.

Please go away you petty moron Calzaghe won!

As for a plus he has his 160lb belts the rest is bad he looked slow, sloppy, ploddy and chinny.

Give me a break, not landing punches doesn't win fights.

[Fenster]

Except that Joe didn't beat him.

Please go away you petty moron Calzaghe won!

As for a plus he has his 160lb belts the rest is bad he looked slow, sloppy, ploddy and chinny.

Give me a break, not landing punches doesn't win fights.

Not throwing them doesn't either.

[ICB]

Except that Joe didn't beat him.

Please go away you petty moron Calzaghe won!

As for a plus he has his 160lb belts the rest is bad he looked slow, sloppy, ploddy and chinny.

Give me a break, not landing punches doesn't win fights.

Agreed Joe Calzaghe may of got credited with more punches on compubox, than he really did land IMO. But he still swamped Bernard Hopkins in activity, and took the fight to Bernard Hopkins and judges normally like the busier guy who takes the fight to his opponent.

I thought Bernard Hopkins won based on cleaner more effective punches. I did think alot of Joe Calzaghe's scoring punches wern't effective. But i only had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point based on the KD, so that means it was a very close fight and i had no problem with Joe Calzaghe winning. Although it would have been special had Bernard Hopkins had a win over Joe Calzaghe then Kelly Pavlik wow.

[Taeth]

Please go away you petty moron Calzaghe won!

As for a plus he has his 160lb belts the rest is bad he looked slow, sloppy, ploddy and chinny.

Give me a break, not landing punches doesn't win fights.

Agreed Joe Calzaghe may of got credited with more punches on compubox, than he really did land IMO. But he still swamped Bernard Hopkins in activity, and took the fight to Bernard Hopkins and judges normally like the busier guy who takes the fight to his opponent.

I thought Bernard Hopkins won based on cleaner more effective punches. I did think alot of Joe Calzaghe's scoring punches wern't effective. But i only had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point based on the KD, so that means it was a very close fight and i had no problem with Joe Calzaghe winning. Although it would have been special had Bernard Hopkins had a win over Joe Calzaghe then Kelly Pavlik wow.

I had the same score, I think it was close, but only because Hopkins' stamina couldn't keep up. IMO his style is a nightmare for Joe and always has been. Joe has always done worse against the guys who like to rough it up, and Bernard is the complete backage, and doesn't really have a weakness except a low output.

[intoccabile]

At bhops age, you can't honestly expect him to try to cut to 160.
Assuming Hopkins fights and beats t he winner of Roy/Calzaghe.
Then do people stop saying " but bhop this and bhop that".
When he finally get the complete credit that is deserved despite his age?

[ICB]

Give me a break, not landing punches doesn't win fights.

Agreed Joe Calzaghe may of got credited with more punches on compubox, than he really did land IMO. But he still swamped Bernard Hopkins in activity, and took the fight to Bernard Hopkins and judges normally like the busier guy who takes the fight to his opponent.

I thought Bernard Hopkins won based on cleaner more effective punches. I did think alot of Joe Calzaghe's scoring punches wern't effective. But i only had Bernard Hopkins winning by 1 point based on the KD, so that means it was a very close fight and i had no problem with Joe Calzaghe winning. Although it would have been special had Bernard Hopkins had a win over Joe Calzaghe then Kelly Pavlik wow.

I had the same score, I think it was close, but only because Hopkins' stamina couldn't keep up. IMO his style is a nightmare for Joe and always has been. Joe has always done worse against the guys who like to rough it up, and Bernard is the complete backage, and doesn't really have a weakness except a low output.

Thats why i think a young Bernard Hopkins would win more clearly, because he had the stamina to fight 15 rounds let alone 12 rounds. Joe Calzaghe has always left himself open when he throws his combination punches too wide.

He has got caught straight down the pipe many times by fighters like Robin Reid, Richie Woodhall. And a younger Bernard Hopkins would counter him all night, but much more frequently than the 42 year old version did.

I actually think a younger Bernard Hopkins would have comfortably defeated Joe Calzaghe by atleast 4 rounds IMO, the younger Bernard Hopkins was an animal but was also smart enough, to know when to pick his spots and when not to.

[Rantcatrat]

He needs to concentrate on the Middleweight division where he still has a big fight with Arthur Abraham waiting for him.

He has skills, size, power and is still the best Middleweight in the World.

I think with time and experience he will become tactically better and more seasoned and while this is a setback it is one he can comeback from and get better.

Nobody has an easy fight with Hopkins and only the very best beat him i.e Roy Jones and Joe Calzaghe.

I disagree. You are being too kind. Hopkins exposed him. He is an average fighter who was exposed. That's it.

[El Kabong]

I think Kelly has now found that plain power limits you and that if you can't get your punches off or create some openings with movement then you're useless.


Kelly needs to work on beiung quicker and shorter with his punches. He can learn a lot from this fight but the question remains WILL HE?


The door is open for Jermain Taylor to fight Hopkins a third time if he can look good vs Lacy MEANWHILE Jeff Lacy can come back BIG TIME and revive his career if he's able to be healthy and take out Taylor (that's a BIG BIG if though).


You have to love the depth at 168-175 Hopkins, Calzaghe, Jones, Dawson, Tarver, Cloud, Taylor, Bute, Kessler, Glenn Johnson.....it's great for boxing. Now if some big time fights can get made!