Vindication is sweet.

[JT Rock]

You can't really criticise Bernard for Kelly being too small when it was clear in the ring that Pavlik was actually the bigger man. He made Hopkins look small in there. Both are huge middleweights.

I agree to an extent but being physically bigger and effective and comfortable at the weight are different things

Yeah Bernard is smart he was always going to bring Kelly up to him rather than go down there. But this is nothing like Oscar and Tito imo who are naturally smaller guys. Naturally Kelly is bigger than B Hop.

Besides when you are giving up 17 years in age you can hardly be accused of having an advantage becuase of the fight being fought at a higher weight.

B Hop's win over Pavlik was immense possibly the greatest performance of his whole career.

To my knowledge no other fighter in the history of boxing has done what he did last night, win every round against the universally recognised champ, at over 40 years of age.

It's one of the greatest ever boxing acomplishments.

Like I stated it was fantastic.. Im a fan of Pavlik but wouldnt say im a fanatic of his like I am with mayweather/ lacy/ holyfield but I agree it was an outstanding acheivment. but Im not throwing dirt on pavlik because I feel like he is a 160lb fighter and is more effective at that weight

[Kev]

I agree to an extent but being physically bigger and effective and comfortable at the weight are different things

Yeah Bernard is smart he was always going to bring Kelly up to him rather than go down there. But this is nothing like Oscar and Tito imo who are naturally smaller guys. Naturally Kelly is bigger than B Hop.

Besides when you are giving up 17 years in age you can hardly be accused of having an advantage becuase of the fight being fought at a higher weight.

B Hop's win over Pavlik was immense possibly the greatest performance of his whole career.

To my knowledge no other fighter in the history of boxing has done what he did last night, win every round against the universally recognised champ, at over 40 years of age.

It's one of the greatest ever boxing acomplishments.

Like I stated it was fantastic.. Im a fan of Pavlik but wouldnt say im a fanatic of his like I am with mayweather/ lacy/ holyfield but I agree it was an outstanding acheivment. but Im not throwing dirt on pavlik because I feel like he is a 160lb fighter and is more effective at that weight

I'm still a big Pavlik fan, he's exciting and young enough to recover from this. B Hop himself lost early in his career, including his first pro fight.

I'm really pleased for Hopkins though, it's been a long time for people to really give him respect. He's one of the greatest of all time imo, almost 60 fights and only once could you say he was clearly beaten, and that on points. He's one of the true legends who would have been a great in any era.

Pavlik will hopefully bounce back and still be in some entertaining fights. I'm sure he will.