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I must have missed the ghost tying his hands down part
He said he didn't know why he didn't fight his best. He said he was in shape, not tired, felt fine, just couldn't do what he normally does. Maybe it was because Bhop was so good, but maybe it was because he had an off night and Bhop was good. Don't know, but he didn't sound like he bitched about Bhop.

I have played basketball games where I just missed shots i've made a million times and it felt like I couldn't make a basket. Not injured, no problems, got positions to take the shots and should have made them just didn't. When I lose that way I am pissed and complain alot. Not about the other team or players, just about how I played. Losing sucks always, but it's worse when you didn't play your best. That's how Kelly sounded to me. He acknowledged he got his butt kicked, but complained about how he fought, not how Hopkins fought.

How would an experienced fighters complain? Bhop cheated, I was sick, the ref interfered, I won but the judges don't like me, HBO made sure their fighter won, I was robbed, I got a fukked up promoter, I overtrained, I was shooting a movie??

I don't see how it was "lack of experience" talking. Those excuses above were by experienced guys like Bhop, Hatton, Judah, Lennox......
I was being sarcastic with the ghost tying his hands rofl.
And it was a lack of experience talking because he doesn't know what was wrong in there.
What was wrong is he's never fought a fighter with lateral movement, someone who can take his tools from him
the way bhop did. Did you see teh SCARED look on his face after the 12th round? During the scuffle, teh way he backed up with absolute
horror in his eyes? Did you see the look of disbelief and humble afterwards?

Its the first time he felt USELESS. .and there are many fighters who can make people feel this way, Bhop being one of them.
He's never had that happen before, he's never had that EXPERIENCE in the ring before. So his only arguement is " It can't be that he was too crafty, i mean.. taylor beat him twice! I beat taylor twice! taylor and calzaghe hit him at will! I just couldnt get anything going.. i dont know.. i tjust wasnt me "

This is the lack of experience talking. When you say you dont know why you didn't beat someone that someone you had beaten beat, thats lack of experience.

I haven't watched the fight yet. I am mainly commenting on people picking apart what was said. First off they come up and ask you a question after a fight and you are forced to answer it or be an ass and not allow it. So they ask you what happened and why did you get your ass kicked? That's a tough question.... Anyway to me he acknowledged that he got whooped, but also said he was frustrated that he didn't perform well. I just don't see it as insulting Bhop.

An undefeated fighter usually hasn't experienced being dominated in the ring. I think he kept his cool and didn't come off like an ass. He addressed what happened and turned the criticism on himself.

Do you seriously think that given the last few performances by Bhop the fight would have went that way? Taking the last 5 years into consideration Bhop hasn't fought that well. I didn't feel it was a good fight for Pavlik and Bhop is tough but a shutout? Nobody predicted that and I think it had something to do with Pavlik having a bit of an off night the same night Bhop had a great one. I think that's typically how it goes when 2 top level guys meet and one is absolutely dominating. Usually it's not just that one guy is so much better, usually it's a great night on a bad night.

Like most of the Superbowls that were blowouts. There's not a huge disparity in talent on the teams.
Not at all man, no one would have thought bhop would have fought like that. I cant remember the last time i saw Bernard put a combo together. He does 1 punch and grab, that's it. He was a different person the other night,you are 100% right.

But experience fighters don't look at the tapes and prepare solely for what is on the film, thats not how it works, and definitely a bad move on kelly and their teams part.. assuming that was the big issue. You have to be prepared for anything in there and be able to change your game plan up on the fly. This is what seperates the good from the great.

kelly couldn't do that. Bhop didn't fight like he does on film, and suddenly the fights out of reach. He didn't attempt to change his tactic up once. This is inexperience and something they will capitalize on i hope.