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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I can remember about 5 people on this site that thought Calzaghe would win that fight

















    So theres 4 more left
    I flew to manchester from London because i had a sneaky feeling Joe would do him.
    Make no mistake about it...95% of this site though he'd get put on his ass by the "new mini Tyson" most of the press thought this too.
    A great Boxer will always beat a Puncher


    Had a pretty good nite awell didn't ya as I remember

    P.S When are you going to pm some pics of your missus


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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    I can remember about 5 people on this site that thought Calzaghe would win that fight

















    So theres 4 more left
    I flew to manchester from London because i had a sneaky feeling Joe would do him.
    Make no mistake about it...95% of this site though he'd get put on his ass by the "new mini Tyson" most of the press thought this too.
    A great Boxer will always beat a Puncher


    Had a pretty good nite awell didn't ya as I remember

    P.S When are you going to pm some pics of your missus















    What missus
    Not good on that front fella so expect some other hot,sexy bitches pic up anytime soon........
    Meeting one who does Paris Hiltons spa treatments later in Notting Hill
    stunner too lol,and yeah that was a MESSY night post JC v JL
    F*ck knows how we even got on the plane back to London

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post

















    So theres 4 more left
    I flew to manchester from London because i had a sneaky feeling Joe would do him.
    Make no mistake about it...95% of this site though he'd get put on his ass by the "new mini Tyson" most of the press thought this too.
    A great Boxer will always beat a Puncher


    Had a pretty good nite awell didn't ya as I remember

    P.S When are you going to pm some pics of your missus















    What missus
    Not good on that front fella so expect some other hot,sexy bitches pic up anytime soon........
    Meeting one who does Paris Hiltons spa treatments later in Notting Hill
    stunner too lol,and yeah that was a MESSY night post JC v JL
    F*ck knows how we even got on the plane back to London
    Fill your boots mate

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    I was just getting into boxing then, I don't think I was even a member of this forum yet, so I had no idea who either guy was until well after the fight.

    What's the point of this post? I'm not sure...

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    Do they still have the posts on this forum that date back that far?? My take on that fight is totally irrelevant as I was still getting more into boxing at the time and had never even seen Calzaghe fight, and not much of Lacy. However, what I had seen were his full fights against Sheika and Donnel Wiggins. Anyone who had seen those fights should have been able to expect that Calzaghe(or any good fighter) had at least a decent chance of winning. The simple fact is Lacy wasn't as good as he was being heralded as. Even the biggest Calzaghe fan should be able to see that in hindsight he was flawed and lacked skills. It's not so easy to go against the grain when a guy has a lot of hype around him though, so credit for anyone who actually did fully predict a dominating Calzaghe victory, though I doubt that includes anyone.

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Do they still have the posts on this forum that date back that far?? My take on that fight is totally irrelevant as I was still getting more into boxing at the time and had never even seen Calzaghe fight, and not much of Lacy. However, what I had seen were his full fights against Sheika and Donnel Wiggins. Anyone who had seen those fights should have been able to expect that Calzaghe(or any good fighter) had at least a decent chance of winning. The simple fact is Lacy wasn't as good as he was being heralded as. Even the biggest Calzaghe fan should be able to see that in hindsight he was flawed and lacked skills. It's not so easy to go against the grain when a guy has a lot of hype around him though, so credit for anyone who actually did fully predict a dominating Calzaghe victory, though I doubt that includes anyone.
    The threads were all lost but Trust me very few people on here on anywhere were tipping Calzaghe, but nearly everybody 'knew' after the fight that Lacy was overrated

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Do they still have the posts on this forum that date back that far?? My take on that fight is totally irrelevant as I was still getting more into boxing at the time and had never even seen Calzaghe fight, and not much of Lacy. However, what I had seen were his full fights against Sheika and Donnel Wiggins. Anyone who had seen those fights should have been able to expect that Calzaghe(or any good fighter) had at least a decent chance of winning. The simple fact is Lacy wasn't as good as he was being heralded as. Even the biggest Calzaghe fan should be able to see that in hindsight he was flawed and lacked skills. It's not so easy to go against the grain when a guy has a lot of hype around him though, so credit for anyone who actually did fully predict a dominating Calzaghe victory, though I doubt that includes anyone.
    The threads were all lost but Trust me very few people on here on anywhere were tipping Calzaghe, but nearly everybody 'knew' after the fight that Lacy was overrated
    To be fair, sometimes it works that way with exciting young fighters. It's very easy to take fights so selective that there flaws aren't really on display until they have to take the real step up to world class and face a different animal. Just because people didn't know that Lacy was an overhyped rookie who was overrated before Calzaghe dummied him doesn't neccesarily mean they are wrong to believe so afterwards Go back and watch him fight Omar Sheika, or Donell Wiggins(who has been KTFO early by any other live body he's fought).

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    I joined right after the fight, I am the biggest lacy fan on this site STILL!! and I thought Jeff would bounce him around the ring like a basketball.. You have to remember before the fight, Joe was sheltered and was rematching guys like Veit, he was oft injured and if memory serves me correct he delayed the Lacy fight once already.. So even if Lacy was half of the hype he still had a great chance against a brittled hand padded champion that was supposedly afraid to fly and was content with fighting mediocre opponents...

    I will say it took me to the Kessler fight to be a fan of Joe's, but even after the Lacy fight everyone thought he would step it up because he didnt have to many great fights left, then he fights Bika and Manfredo.. Most of his loyal fans were groaning over this..

    Everyone who thinks Joe is gonna steamroll over Jones better reconsider.. Roy is the stronger quick handed fighter.. Joe can flurry with pitter patter Jones is a crisp accurate puncher to the likes Joe has never seen before, Roy has also been great about fighting off the ropes of late and firing in good body shots and uppercuts.. Joe dosent have a stellar defense and if Hop can put him on his ass with a right you best believe Jones can do the same.. Joe eats a steady diet of straight rights and Jones will be the chef. Gonna be a close one. We have seen Roy turn human already a few years back and be effective, I hope at 37 Joe dosent slip seeing fighters have been known to get old in a round
    Last edited by JT Rock; 10-22-2008 at 01:40 PM.

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    I knew who they both were at the time but never followed either of them. At that time, I was strictly into the welterweights and below as to me that is where all the excitement was..

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    I thought Joe would win, before I got banned on maxboxing forums I had the whole forum laughing at me for saying Joie would win, there was a huge thread where I was arguing with ruthless b*stard.


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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    yeah i said lacy would be beat well, think he has a chance against taylor though

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Not me...

    I thought Lacy would beat Joe by TKO late in the fight.

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    I remember calling it a 50-50 fight, but have to admit wasn't confident of Joe pulling it off. The lack of confidence was mostly with Joe's lack of recent form, he'd looked awful against Salem, and at the time I couldn't help but think Lacy would have battered Ashira in a round.

    I think you can beat a guy TOO handily, it just adds question marks on the opponent. Hopkins also won so handily that there are just as many threads asking 'what was wrong with Pavlik' than there are praising him.'

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I joined right after the fight, I am the biggest lacy fan on this site STILL!! and I thought Jeff would bounce him around the ring like a basketball.. You have to remember before the fight, Joe was sheltered and was rematching guys like Veit, he was oft injured and if memory serves me correct he delayed the Lacy fight once already.. So even if Lacy was half of the hype he still had a great chance against a brittled hand padded champion that was supposedly afraid to fly and was content with fighting mediocre opponents...

    I will say it took me to the Kessler fight to be a fan of Joe's, but even after the Lacy fight everyone thought he would step it up because he didnt have to many great fights left, then he fights Bika and Manfredo.. Most of his loyal fans were groaning over this..

    Everyone who thinks Joe is gonna steamroll over Jones better reconsider.. Roy is the stronger quick handed fighter.. Joe can flurry with pitter patter Jones is a crisp accurate puncher to the likes Joe has never seen before, Roy has also been great about fighting off the ropes of late and firing in good body shots and uppercuts.. Joe dosent have a stellar defense and if Hop can put him on his ass with a right you best believe Jones can do the same.. Joe eats a steady diet of straight rights and Jones will be the chef. Gonna be a close one. We have seen Roy turn human already a few years back and be effective, I hope at 37 Joe dosent slip seeing fighters have been known to get tired in a round











    Agree 100% and i got a funny feeling that Jones could well stop Calzaghe...
    Jones is Dangerous for a good few rounds and no way is this an easy fight at all.
    Jones has more power and Joe can't hurt him at all,both have pretty equal skill too so this is a great matchup for me and it doesn't matter that they are meeting late in their careers as it's the same for both fighter.
    This couls all hinge on Roy's fitness

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    Default Re: A show of hands - who knew Lacy was an overrated overhyped rookie before the JC f

    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JT Rock View Post
    I joined right after the fight, I am the biggest lacy fan on this site STILL!! and I thought Jeff would bounce him around the ring like a basketball.. You have to remember before the fight, Joe was sheltered and was rematching guys like Veit, he was oft injured and if memory serves me correct he delayed the Lacy fight once already.. So even if Lacy was half of the hype he still had a great chance against a brittled hand padded champion that was supposedly afraid to fly and was content with fighting mediocre opponents...

    I will say it took me to the Kessler fight to be a fan of Joe's, but even after the Lacy fight everyone thought he would step it up because he didnt have to many great fights left, then he fights Bika and Manfredo.. Most of his loyal fans were groaning over this..

    Everyone who thinks Joe is gonna steamroll over Jones better reconsider.. Roy is the stronger quick handed fighter.. Joe can flurry with pitter patter Jones is a crisp accurate puncher to the likes Joe has never seen before, Roy has also been great about fighting off the ropes of late and firing in good body shots and uppercuts.. Joe dosent have a stellar defense and if Hop can put him on his ass with a right you best believe Jones can do the same.. Joe eats a steady diet of straight rights and Jones will be the chef. Gonna be a close one. We have seen Roy turn human already a few years back and be effective, I hope at 37 Joe dosent slip seeing fighters have been known to get tired in a round











    Agree 100% and i got a funny feeling that Jones could well stop Calzaghe...
    Jones is Dangerous for a good few rounds and no way is this an easy fight at all.
    Jones has more power and Joe can't hurt him at all,both have pretty equal skill too so this is a great matchup for me and it doesn't matter that they are meeting late in their careers as it's the same for both fighter.
    This couls all hinge on Roy's fitness

    I do agree with the both of you. I do think that although Joe is at the end of his career he is still at the tail end of his prime where I feel Roy is past it. Although Jones still has tools the bag is much smaller then it used to be. I have, time and time again, doubted Joe and was handily fed my words.

    I believe it will be a Joe win due to sheer activity. This is why I also agree about Roy's fitness. I don't think he's capable of hanging with the much more active Calzaghe. Jones's punches will do more damage but Joe has a hell of a chin as well...

    Will Roy get steam rolled? No. Weill he lose? I believe so

    Calzaghe by Majority...

    Joe, don't make me look like a toolbox, now... I've always gone against you before
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