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    Default Re: The excuses just keep coming...

    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Wow, it must be nice to be able to read one's mind, and know why Kelly and his team decided to fight on.

    It's really sad the way some people here take information, and twist it around in order to suit their need to bash, and tear down a fighter.

    What proof do you have that they didn't take Hopkins seriously?

    Anybody that knows anything about Kelly, knows that he is a guy that takes this profession seriously. He gives 100% in training, and makes the sacrafices necessary to prepare for a fight.

    Kelly came up in the ranks the hard, and right way, he earned it. He put in the time, he put in all the hard work, and he took on whoever his promoter put in front of him. You don't become a champion, if you don't take other fighters seriously.

    Do you really think that he would want to risk his undefeated record by not taking Hopkins seriously? Please. That's insulting to any fighter.

    It's funny how you only use a portion of the story to suit your needs. Nevermind mentioning how he didn't want to cancel, because Kelly didn't want to let down the thousands of fans that were traveling all the way from Youngstown to see him fight. Nevermind that his team said that they made a mistake by not cancelling, and that they won't make that mistake again. Nevermind that Kelly believes in himself, and thought that he could go on with the fight.

    For those that want to read the whole story, here it is.

    Bronchitis, bursitis hurt Pavlik - Vindy.com News - Pavlik - Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana, Ohio


    If you're going to take information, and twist it around in order to hate, that's sad, because every guy that steps into the ring should be given respect for doing so.
    Hahahahahaha. The Boxingscene article that I read took quotes from the article. I didn't twist anything around. You're just looking to make me a Pavlik basher because I have valid points. Notice in most of my post, I'm talking about Pavlik's camp and not Pavlik himself.

    You said that every guy that steps into the ring should be given respect for doing so. I never said anything about not respecting Kelly Pavlik, I simply have questions about his health and preparation for the fight and why all this stuff is being used as an excuse now.

    Pavlik really hasn't given Hopkins that much credit either. He said stuff like "I just didn't feel right", "I don't know why I couldn't get off", and "I wasn't myself in there." I, I, I, I, I. That's all. There is no type of respect for Bernard to just say "you know what, he was the better man that night, but with better preparation, I can do better against him." Where is Pavlik's respect for B-Hop?

    And finally, in that same article that you posted, Jack Loew is crying about going up past 160 to fight guys. Waaah, waaah, waaah, people keep making us go up, no more, they have to come down to fight us. But wasn't this guy the same guy that said Pavlik was gonna be effective all the way up to 175? He was also one of the guys calling JoeCal out for Pavlik at 168. Nobody said they had to go fight bigger guys but Pavlik's camp chose the bigger money fight instead of a mandatory at 160. So, who's fault is that?
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    i wonder if the hopkins 8 years ago could beat him so convincling
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    Default Re: The excuses just keep coming...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheChosenOne View Post
    i wonder if the hopkins 8 years ago could beat him so convincling



    That was the best ive ever seen Hopkins.

    Thing is Pavlik has a jab and a right cross and looks like he walks through tar. Any elite with footwork School the guy.

    I predicted it, i knew it he is a good puncher with heart and stamina he fails on the rest.

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    Default Re: The excuses just keep coming...

    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Diane View Post
    Wow, it must be nice to be able to read one's mind, and know why Kelly and his team decided to fight on.

    It's really sad the way some people here take information, and twist it around in order to suit their need to bash, and tear down a fighter.

    What proof do you have that they didn't take Hopkins seriously?

    Anybody that knows anything about Kelly, knows that he is a guy that takes this profession seriously. He gives 100% in training, and makes the sacrafices necessary to prepare for a fight.

    Kelly came up in the ranks the hard, and right way, he earned it. He put in the time, he put in all the hard work, and he took on whoever his promoter put in front of him. You don't become a champion, if you don't take other fighters seriously.

    Do you really think that he would want to risk his undefeated record by not taking Hopkins seriously? Please. That's insulting to any fighter.

    It's funny how you only use a portion of the story to suit your needs. Nevermind mentioning how he didn't want to cancel, because Kelly didn't want to let down the thousands of fans that were traveling all the way from Youngstown to see him fight. Nevermind that his team said that they made a mistake by not cancelling, and that they won't make that mistake again. Nevermind that Kelly believes in himself, and thought that he could go on with the fight.

    For those that want to read the whole story, here it is.

    Bronchitis, bursitis hurt Pavlik - Vindy.com News - Pavlik - Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana, Ohio


    If you're going to take information, and twist it around in order to hate, that's sad, because every guy that steps into the ring should be given respect for doing so.
    Hahahahahaha. The Boxingscene article that I read took quotes from the article. I didn't twist anything around. You're just looking to make me a Pavlik basher because I have valid points. Notice in most of my post, I'm talking about Pavlik's camp and not Pavlik himself.

    You said that every guy that steps into the ring should be given respect for doing so. I never said anything about not respecting Kelly Pavlik, I simply have questions about his health and preparation for the fight and why all this stuff is being used as an excuse now.

    Pavlik really hasn't given Hopkins that much credit either. He said stuff like "I just didn't feel right", "I don't know why I couldn't get off", and "I wasn't myself in there." I, I, I, I, I. That's all. There is no type of respect for Bernard to just say "you know what, he was the better man that night, but with better preparation, I can do better against him." Where is Pavlik's respect for B-Hop?

    And finally, in that same article that you posted, Jack Loew is crying about going up past 160 to fight guys. Waaah, waaah, waaah, people keep making us go up, no more, they have to come down to fight us. But wasn't this guy the same guy that said Pavlik was gonna be effective all the way up to 175? He was also one of the guys calling JoeCal out for Pavlik at 168. Nobody said they had to go fight bigger guys but Pavlik's camp chose the bigger money fight instead of a mandatory at 160. So, who's fault is that?
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