Ok Calzaghe Haters What Does He Need To Do In Jones Fight To Get Respect!

[Taeth]

The title could have been a bit less abrasive IMO. I think most real boxing fans respect Joe.

Simaltaneous 2 division recognized Ring Champ

Undefeated

Over 10 year champion

Not to mention top 5 PFP fighter.

Id say there is a lot to be respected there

It is a bit of a shame... He won my respect years ago but have never liked his style. He wins fights. I have seen many of his early fights after the fact and saw that he was a crisp puncher with pop but was forced to change his style after the repeated injurys...

That being said...

Years from now Joe will be remembered as a great champion and kingpin. He destroyed Lacy and Beat Bhop that CLEARLY... CLEARLY has more left in the tank then we thought when we saw him against Tarver, Wright and Calzaghe.

IMHO the Pavlik fight showed just how good Joe is and added alot of stock to that fight.

I don't really see a plethora of Calzaghe haters anymore. It's undeniable to brush off his accomplishments.

Joe Calzaghe is as great a champ in modern time as you can get...

Him beating Hopkins is debatable which makes using that as a plus for Calzaghe IMO wrong, You could say he had a close fight with Bernard either way, but saying he clearly won isn't correct.

[BIG H]

I have the answer to the initial thread question.....


He can say it was all a big mistake, he isn't British, he is actually American. Within a week he would be p4p number 1

[C-Lo]

I give Calzaghe respect for all his accomplishments. I also believe he is top 3 pound for pound.

He should beat Roy but I won't be cheering for him.

I'm just not a fan.

[Drago]

I have the answer to the initial thread question.....


He can say it was all a big mistake, he isn't British, he is actually American. Within a week he would be p4p number 1

ha ha funny cos its true

[Drago]

suppose its more imporant RJJ respects JC than all the JC Haters, RJJ said he will be fighting the fastest puncher he ever met and Hopkins also respects JC. thats much more important!

[mrodub]

I respect calzage but he gains no respect for this fight what does it prove?
Last year calzage said roy jones was past it now he wants to fight him.
I think he just wants jones name on his record to make a case for the hall of fame.
He sould fight chad dawson who is undeafeted and not over the hill then what can anyone say
Its boxing though people will always dought you no matter who you beat look at any graet fighter in his own era he was doughted constanly it was only after he leaves people realize the void he left behind and begin to appreciate him.
Not comparing calzage to but examples:
Ali
tyson
duran
hagler
just a few but you get the idea

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Joe is supposed to win this fight... It won't do anything for his legacy when he wins except that years down the road when people see Jones on Joes record they'll be like, "wow, he must have been good." But many won't know it was due to his drastic decline...

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

The title could have been a bit less abrasive IMO. I think most real boxing fans respect Joe.

Simaltaneous 2 division recognized Ring Champ

Undefeated

Over 10 year champion

Not to mention top 5 PFP fighter.

Id say there is a lot to be respected there

It is a bit of a shame... He won my respect years ago but have never liked his style. He wins fights. I have seen many of his early fights after the fact and saw that he was a crisp puncher with pop but was forced to change his style after the repeated injurys...

That being said...

Years from now Joe will be remembered as a great champion and kingpin. He destroyed Lacy and Beat Bhop that CLEARLY... CLEARLY has more left in the tank then we thought when we saw him against Tarver, Wright and Calzaghe.

IMHO the Pavlik fight showed just how good Joe is and added alot of stock to that fight.

I don't really see a plethora of Calzaghe haters anymore. It's undeniable to brush off his accomplishments.

Joe Calzaghe is as great a champ in modern time as you can get...

Him beating Hopkins is debatable which makes using that as a plus for Calzaghe IMO wrong, You could say he had a close fight with Bernard either way, but saying he clearly won isn't correct.

Well, all due respect(you do hold the gay-off belt) I saw Calzaghe winning by a point... Close but none the less still a win... And even a close fight with Bernard is still a plus for Calzaghe seeing the highly touted(and one of my fav fighters) Pavlik was nearly of not totally(arguable) white washed by him... So yes, I disagree

[Taeth]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

[kingfrnk]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Whatever that gay-off thing was, it was gay in and of itself. Whoever feels that it is important to hold a popularity contest or unpopularity contest based on a forum is gay. I think you can give Calzaghe credit for how he did against Hopkins for sure, but saying he beat Hopkins clearly is wrong because he didn't, even having him win by 1 round doesn't overcome the fact that Hopkins is 43 all other acclompishments included. That fight helped Calzaghe's credentials for sure, but it also didn't because IMO it shows that Hopkins prime for prime was the better man, and this fight will be meaningless as well because of Roy even looks half decent IMO will show he would be the better man prime for prime, and if Roy wins then Calzaghe looks like a fool, which also doesn't give him due credit because he is a good fighter, but in terms of all time greatness he is more on Mosley or Dela HOya's level.

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

234 posts to go

[kingfrnk]

Hey man... You won the gay-off be proud.

All this prime for prime talk... It's a moot point... They were both different fighters in the beginning of their primes... TOTALLY different style for sure with Calzaghe cracking more and not slapping pitty pat flurries to astound the judges and Hopkins being a more agressive fighter who was a good finisher(Course Hop looked like his old self this fight).

Stating Hopkins is 43 is also moot at this point. We all know that a boxer is only as old as the amount of punishment he has sustained over the course of his or her career. Hopkins is not an "old" fighter and shouldn't be looked at that way as that was dispelled and blatantly apparent in this fight...

I think we'll have to agree to disagree.

was i in the gay off or are u gonna make me wait til i have a 1000 posts to find out

234 posts to go

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