Did hopkins fight the wrong fight against Calzaghe?

[BIG H]

Even against winky and taylor he only did one punch and grab, fellas.

He fought Oscar, Taylor, Winky, Tarver, Calzaghe all the same.. Not taking anything from calzaghe, he DOES have a plan b c d etc etc, but hopkin sfought the fight he always fought.
It had nothing to dowith Joes style..

Winky,Tarver & Taylor fight absolutely nothing like Calzaghe though do they. He was able to fight that way against those guys.

[Markusdarkus]

Hopkins fought the best he could and had he of had the referee he had against Pavlik he would have either got busted up or DQ`d for holding.

Cortez was awful in that fight.

[ICB]

I think Bernard Hopkins should of fought toe to toe more, and roughed up Joe Calzaghe on the inside. Past fights have showed Joe Calzaghe has struggled in those kind of fights, and Bernard Hopkins is way more skilled at those kind of fights, than Reid, Salem, Bika, etc.

[ross]

The only way Hopkins has a chance in a fight against Calzaghe is if it were a gun fight, even then hed be too slow on the trigger

[ICB]

The only way Hopkins has a chance in a fight against Calzaghe is if it were a gun fight, even then hed be too slow on the trigger

Yea your right there fight was that one sided wasn't it

[Pugilistic]

I think he should of come forward more instead of always backing up.

At times in the fight he would come forward and he seemed to be effective when he did.

[Taeth]

Hopkins fought the best he could and had he of had the referee he had against Pavlik he would have either got busted up or DQ`d for holding.

Cortez was awful in that fight.

No way would have he gotten busted up by Calzaghe, IMO this fight gets worse for Calzaghe the more toe to toe these two go. I think Hopkins plainly stated he has foughten in a defensive manner because of his age. I just think guys who like to impose themselves on you like Calzaghe, Pavlik, Margarito, etc are the wrong opponents to do it against. You have to do what Holyfield did against Tyson, it gets inside their head, Calzaghe has just been fortunate enough/good enough that he can either outbox his opponent and outfight them. I think Hopkins outboxed Calzaghe in the first fight, but judges don't seem to value that as much as physically beating the opponent down.

[Fenster]

Hopkins fought the best he could and had he of had the referee he had against Pavlik he would have either got busted up or DQ`d for holding.

Cortez was awful in that fight.

No way would have he gotten busted up by Calzaghe, IMO this fight gets worse for Calzaghe the more toe to toe these two go. I think Hopkins plainly stated he has foughten in a defensive manner because of his age. I just think guys who like to impose themselves on you like Calzaghe, Pavlik, Margarito, etc are the wrong opponents to do it against. You have to do what Holyfield did against Tyson, it gets inside their head, Calzaghe has just been fortunate enough/good enough that he can either outbox his opponent and outfight them. I think Hopkins outboxed Calzaghe in the first fight, but judges don't seem to value that as much as physically beating the opponent down.

Do you remember what rounds you scored for each?

[Taeth]

I had it 6-6, Hopkins winning on the knock down, I would have to go back though because I haven't actually scored the rounds in awhile, and I don't write it down. But even the rounds Calzaghe won weren't because he was the superior boxer(By that I mean skillwise) It was because Hopkins just wasn't throwing punches, and Calzaghe was. There were maybe two rounds I thought Calzaghe outboxed Hopkins(landed more clean punches). In this fight I thought Hopkins' defensive abilities made Calzaghe look horrible, whereas I don't think Calzaghe made Hopkins look any different than he always has(as an old crafty fighter). IMO in terms of skill there was a large gap, which very much surprised me, between them. I knew Hopkins was a much purer tactician, but I thought their effiveness was dead even with the same output based on their previous fights, but on fight night if you compare punch for punch I felt Hopkins looked like a much better fighter. I just think their two previous fights (against Wright and Kessler) were misleading because stylewise I think Winky matched up a lot better against Hopkins then Kessler did against Calzaghe.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Teath, one thing you have to remember is, Joe can fight taking a step or two back. The way i see it, Bernard didn't want the risk of getting his timing wrong.
As you know timing is paramount to Bernard and i feel the theory was that its much easier to simplify with a guy like Calzaghe and have him walk on to your shots. It takes some of the edge away from a guy like Clazaghe to have him fall into the same monotonous traps.

If the fight wasn't as monotonus as it was, Clazaghe may of come into his own.

Pavlik's own, got owned.

[intoccabile]

Even against winky and taylor he only did one punch and grab, fellas.

He fought Oscar, Taylor, Winky, Tarver, Calzaghe all the same.. Not taking anything from calzaghe, he DOES have a plan b c d etc etc, but hopkin sfought the fight he always fought.
It had nothing to dowith Joes style..

Winky,Tarver & Taylor fight absolutely nothing like Calzaghe though do they. He was able to fight that way against those guys.

Wow you just proved my point, bright guy. LOL!!!

You just admitted he fought the same fight against all of them, which is what I said -.-;
and the question the OP asked was " do we think hopkins fought the wrong fight against calzaghe". So yes, he did fight the wrong fight.. and you seem to be in agreement by saying " but calzaghe fights different then everyone else he fought this way " < - This is the reason why he fought the wrong fight -.-;

Hopkins is arrogant. He takes people to school, makes them look bad, and swears the fight is in the bag.
When the verdict is in, turns out the jduges didnt agree with him. It happened twice with taylor, third time with Calzaghe.
3 strikes, your out. He realises now that what he thinks is right isn't always right in the judges mind.. and I will say again - His loss to calzaghe
is one of the best things that could have ever happened to him. Had he not lost to calzaghe, he would have probably fought the same fight
against Pavlik.. but he knows now that he has to work aswell as do all the other things he's so great at.

[Taeth]

I don't think Winky did any worse against Bernard than Calzaghe did, in fact taking in account how much more wear on his tires, and how much smaller he was I would in the whole scheme of things Winky is a better fighter then Calzaghe p4p in terms of all time greatness, Hopkins had a harder time landing on Winky, and WInky landed IMO more left hands then Calzaghe, and neither of them really landed a whole lot of jabs though both landed a few.

[Spicoli]

Hopkins took s!!! for granted,went into sniper mode.Calzaghe was willing and did not let Hopkins get into his head,Calzaghe basically outworked him & It caught up to Hopkins down the stretch and I KO'd the TV set with a boot.Pretty basic.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I don't think Winky did any worse against Bernard than Calzaghe did, in fact taking in account how much more wear on his tires, and how much smaller he was I would in the whole scheme of things Winky is a better fighter then Calzaghe p4p in terms of all time greatness, Hopkins had a harder time landing on Winky, and WInky landed IMO more left hands then Calzaghe, and neither of them really landed a whole lot of jabs though both landed a few.

Bhop looked worse in that fight yet won by a clear margin.

Weren't we all commenting on how Bhops legs seemed to of gone

[BIG H]

Even against winky and taylor he only did one punch and grab, fellas.

He fought Oscar, Taylor, Winky, Tarver, Calzaghe all the same.. Not taking anything from calzaghe, he DOES have a plan b c d etc etc, but hopkin sfought the fight he always fought.
It had nothing to dowith Joes style..

Winky,Tarver & Taylor fight absolutely nothing like Calzaghe though do they. He was able to fight that way against those guys.

Wow you just proved my point, bright guy. LOL!!!

You just admitted he fought the same fight against all of them, which is what I said -.-;

My point wasn't aimed at you or trying to dissprove what you said, I was agreeing with you 'Bright Guy'. My point was that the way Calzaghe fought didn't allow Hopkins to do what he normally does SUCCESSFULLY.
So by that regard Hopkins fought the wrong fight or should've adapted during the fight.