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    Default Re: Did hopkins fight the wrong fight against Calzaghe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Hopkins fought the best he could and had he of had the referee he had against Pavlik he would have either got busted up or DQ`d for holding.

    Cortez was awful in that fight.
    No way would have he gotten busted up by Calzaghe, IMO this fight gets worse for Calzaghe the more toe to toe these two go. I think Hopkins plainly stated he has foughten in a defensive manner because of his age. I just think guys who like to impose themselves on you like Calzaghe, Pavlik, Margarito, etc are the wrong opponents to do it against. You have to do what Holyfield did against Tyson, it gets inside their head, Calzaghe has just been fortunate enough/good enough that he can either outbox his opponent and outfight them. I think Hopkins outboxed Calzaghe in the first fight, but judges don't seem to value that as much as physically beating the opponent down.

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    Default Re: Did hopkins fight the wrong fight against Calzaghe?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Markusdarkus View Post
    Hopkins fought the best he could and had he of had the referee he had against Pavlik he would have either got busted up or DQ`d for holding.

    Cortez was awful in that fight.
    No way would have he gotten busted up by Calzaghe, IMO this fight gets worse for Calzaghe the more toe to toe these two go. I think Hopkins plainly stated he has foughten in a defensive manner because of his age. I just think guys who like to impose themselves on you like Calzaghe, Pavlik, Margarito, etc are the wrong opponents to do it against. You have to do what Holyfield did against Tyson, it gets inside their head, Calzaghe has just been fortunate enough/good enough that he can either outbox his opponent and outfight them. I think Hopkins outboxed Calzaghe in the first fight, but judges don't seem to value that as much as physically beating the opponent down.
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    Default Re: Did hopkins fight the wrong fight against Calzaghe?

    I had it 6-6, Hopkins winning on the knock down, I would have to go back though because I haven't actually scored the rounds in awhile, and I don't write it down. But even the rounds Calzaghe won weren't because he was the superior boxer(By that I mean skillwise) It was because Hopkins just wasn't throwing punches, and Calzaghe was. There were maybe two rounds I thought Calzaghe outboxed Hopkins(landed more clean punches). In this fight I thought Hopkins' defensive abilities made Calzaghe look horrible, whereas I don't think Calzaghe made Hopkins look any different than he always has(as an old crafty fighter). IMO in terms of skill there was a large gap, which very much surprised me, between them. I knew Hopkins was a much purer tactician, but I thought their effiveness was dead even with the same output based on their previous fights, but on fight night if you compare punch for punch I felt Hopkins looked like a much better fighter. I just think their two previous fights (against Wright and Kessler) were misleading because stylewise I think Winky matched up a lot better against Hopkins then Kessler did against Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: Did hopkins fight the wrong fight against Calzaghe?

    Teath, one thing you have to remember is, Joe can fight taking a step or two back. The way i see it, Bernard didn't want the risk of getting his timing wrong.
    As you know timing is paramount to Bernard and i feel the theory was that its much easier to simplify with a guy like Calzaghe and have him walk on to your shots. It takes some of the edge away from a guy like Clazaghe to have him fall into the same monotonous traps.

    If the fight wasn't as monotonus as it was, Clazaghe may of come into his own.

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