~ A Message to Referee Marlon B. Wright ~ (Ref. for Andrade-Bute)

[Mikkel_K]

So, "It was Andrade's fault"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGM6WAfosj0

[killersheep]

So, "It was Andrade's fault"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGM6WAfosj0

Well if we're gonna talk rules how about we discuss the fact that a ref should stop the fight if a fighter is unable to defend themselves, which is clearly the state Bute was in.

[Gandalf]

Two awful and contrasting examples of this in recent weeks. Mosley didnt go to his corner against Mayorga. And in this case Andrade was miles over the other side of the ring. Definitely in his corner. That count shouldnt have been stopped, and Bute is one lucky bastard.

[Mikkel_K]

So, "It was Andrade's fault"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGM6WAfosj0

Well if we're gonna talk rules how about we discuss the fact that a ref should stop the fight if a fighter is unable to defend themselves, which is clearly the state Bute was in.

I find it funny how Wright himself acknowledges in the clip that Bute was out on his feet - way before the knockdown.

[CutMeMick]

This ref has to be investigated and there has to be a rematch, not in montreal or with this crooked ref.

I highly doubt that Bute will want anything to do with Andrade after this...
I think Andrade should move on, he doesn't need the IBF strap or Bute.
He's got the people behind him and that will carry over...

hat was some bullshiit. I had Andrade winning by late stoppage and that's what happened. No way Bute won that fight. He won 11 rounds. But not the fight. He was out in the 12th. Andrade was robbed. The ref was a joke. With that being said, I think Bute wins a rematch pretty easily. I think he'll learn from his stupidity.

I really doubt they would want to fight him again and honestly I don't think Bute would make it all the way. I feel that Andrade would come in knowing that he can catch up to him if he applies the pressure and little by little Andrade would chip away at him.

So, "It was Andrade's fault"

Are you kidding me?
Andrade was literally about 3-4 feet standing to his left of the corner but he was waaaay across the otherside.
There's nothing the bitch ass ref. can say that justifies it.

[thewhale]

“It was outrageous,” Andrade, now 27-2 (21), said of Wright’s count, which he believed the referee needlessly interrupted. I didn’t come out of the corner. [Bute] was completely out.

“His eyes are gone. I know I won this fight.”

“I didn’t come here to win a decision. I came to knock him out, and I did.”


Andrade says it all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU WON CHAMP GREAT WORK

[Diane]

Okay here's the video showing everything leading up to the end of Bute.

As you can see, starting with about 35 seconds left, Bute cannot defend himself at all!! How long should it take a ref to stop the fight if it is clear that he cannot defend himself? Not 35 seconds. A lot of damage could be done to the fighter in that time.

At the 29 second mark, the ref makes a break that I did not think was necessary, and kind of extended it by keeping Andrade away a second time.

Also, isn't the ruling supposed to be, if it's clear that the ropes stop the fighter from going out of the ring, it should be considered a knock down? Just like in the Marquez/Vasquez fight. Look a the 16 second mark, Bute nearly hung himself at that point, and it looks like the ropes kept him in the ring to me. Okay, maybe this one I'm might be grasping a bit. What do you guys think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BD5rCPcXJ0


This time, I really did blow poor Danny's ear drums out!! I started screaming so loud at that fuking ref, Danny had to yell at me to stop.

[Kev]

Okay here's the video showing everything leading up to the end of Bute.

As you can see, starting with about 35 seconds left, Bute cannot defend himself at all!! How long should it take a ref to stop the fight if it is clear that he cannot defend himself? Not 35 seconds. A lot of damage could be done to the fighter in that time.

At the 29 second mark, the ref makes a break that I did not think was necessary, and kind of extended it by keeping Andrade away a second time.

Also, isn't the ruling supposed to be, if it's clear that the ropes stop the fighter from going out of the ring, it should be considered a knock down? Just like in the Marquez/Vasquez fight. Look a the 16 second mark, Bute nearly hung himself at that point, and it looks like the ropes kept him in the ring to me. Okay, maybe this one I'm might be grasping a bit. What do you guys think?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BD5rCPcXJ0

This time, I really did blow poor Danny's ear drums out!! I started screaming so loud at that fuking ref, Danny had to yell at me to stop.

Well I definitely don't think the referee should have stopped the fight, Bute had won every round apart from the 5th and there was about 30 seconds to go when he started to get in serious trouble.

Believe me if he'd have just waved the fight off and not given Bute a chance to get up he'd have been crucified and rightly so imo.

It was a really difficult call imo, the ref didn't handle it well but it's becuase he's human not because the fight is fixed.

At the end of the day regarding the long count, if the ref has to take responsibility for being over zealous in wasting time making Andrade go back to his corner then Andrade has to take some responsibility in leaving the corner in the first place. He should have gone straight to the corner and not moved.

If you use the excuse that he was excited and emotional (and of course he would be) then you have to give the ref the same benefit.

Very disappointing for Andrade and I really think there should be a rematch but I definitely don't think the fight should have been stopped before the knockdown, and imo he just barely got up within the 10 seconds so should have been allowed to fight on, and by fight I mean wrestle Andrade to the ground and hold on for dear life for the final 4 seconds of fight time

[davbos5]

I was watching the fight casually with no stake in either fighter. I actually had the sound off, but when I saw Buke get hurt I scrambled to the remote control. There is no doubt that Buke was out on his feet. I went back and watched it again and was amazed at the referee bias throughout the fight. This is either the worst referee ever or a referee that was bought and paid for! I can never root for Buke after this. I don't anticapate this problem when I watch UFC tonight. FIXED!

[Spicoli]

Do they have a fawking shortage of ref's in Canada....Wright has worked 7 of Bute's last 10 fights ??

[intoccabile]

Fighter cannot be saved by the bell in the 12th and final round, that is the rule.
This is why if you watch the fight, even though the fight is over (on the clock), they don't ring the final bell until after the ref says wether or not Bute can continue. They were awaiting a verdict.

Bute was clearly out and the fight should have been stopped. So I won't only dispute the long count, but I'll dispute that the only reason the referee DIDN'T wave the fight as a KO for Andrade is because he knew there was no time left, and by saying Bute was able to continue, he'd win. It's bull shit

[Spicoli]

Fighter cannot be saved by the bell in the 12th and final round, that is the rule.
This is why if you watch the fight, even though the fight is over (on the clock), they don't ring the final bell until after the ref says wether or not Bute can continue. They were awaiting a verdict.

Bute was clearly out and the fight should have been stopped. So I won't only dispute the long count, but I'll dispute that the only reason the referee DIDN'T wave the fight as a KO for Andrade is because he knew there was no time left, and by saying Bute was able to continue, he'd win. It's bull shit

No doubt it had home town politics smeared all over it.Did not realize the last round specifics as per the clock though Ive seen in like situations the bells sound in error.But I'm not about to even pretend to defend that clearly Biased prick.Not sure about a rematch but have a fondness for the idea that he gets Bute on neutral ground should they meet and roll him.Bullshit indeed!Next time Andrade needs to get going earlier,relentless from his left side with Butes irratating right hand waving down at the knees like a broken clock hand.I think he walked through much heavier shots from Kes and can effect Bute much more when He catches him.

[Mar]

Very sad...andrade clearly won the fight, even my youngest son asked why the ref wasn't counting. Ok so you want to rip andrade, at least save the guy from having to take unecessary punches as soon as the opening bell rang even before the dancin skanks can climb down off thier little stools count to 10 and call andrade out by KO. Save us all the time. If you're gonna cheat so blatantly own it ......say fuck andrade hand him his check and send him back on the plane. Insulting all of us with this WWE scripted type match was b.s. Instead of ronald (who did well by the way) holding friday night bible study during the ringwalk it would have been more fitting to have mayweather/big show 2 last night for the undercard, if nothing else to at least keep with the theme of the main event....ok i'm high ( yea yea no surprise i know) and the wife is on my ass for stoping by a hotel on the way home just to use thier free internet in lobby..so i'm grabbing some also free coffee and doughnuts and will see yall monday ! But i just has to comment on this garbage they called a fair fight last night.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

If there were 30 or more seconds left after the ref letting it go on, bute would have been brain damaged and in a fucking coma.

[Clanger]

Bute might have raised to his feet, but was unable to stand of his own accord for a good 5-6 seconds.

A ref would have waved it off at that point...

..instead the motha focker was too busy yelling at Andrade.

I disagree: ANDRADE WINS THE REMATCH NOT BUTE.