Joe Calzaghe under the micoscope

[ICB]

Bilbo i just laughed my ass off when i see you said Virgil Hill is no world beater. He has 21 world title defenses combined at Light Heavyweight which is the record or close to it are you serious ?

Joe Calzaghe made 21 CONSECUTIVE title defenses which IS the record at supermiddle weight and the second most defenses in history yet you don't think he's a world beater.

You laugh at me for thinking Virgil is not an all time great, but Calzaghe's record is even better and yet you don't rate him?

Not what i was saying at all Joe Calzaghe is a better fighter than Virgil Hill, i never said that and i never said i didn't rate Joe Calzaghe. And where did i say Joe Calzaghe isn't world beater ? why would i say that ? that would be ridiculous if i did say that, i just think his record has many question marks. The problem i had with your comment is right here in bold.

Clinton Woods, Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, decent fighters but not world beaters.

How in the world is Virgil Hill just a decent fighter and not a world beater, when he has 21 world title defenses combined, and also holds many other records aswell ?

And also reply to my other comment aswell above.

[Tysonbruno]

When people break down Roy's Jones career they only pull out the names that are big forgetting to compare Roy's weaker opposition to Calzaghe's weaker opposition even is weaker opposition is better than Calzaghe's weaker opposition Vinny Paz and Malinga would have beat most of Calzaghe's weak opposition and thats just picking 2 out.

[Kev]

Bilbo i just laughed my ass off when i see you said Virgil Hill is no world beater. He has 21 world title defenses combined at Light Heavyweight which is the record or close to it are you serious ?

Joe Calzaghe made 21 CONSECUTIVE title defenses which IS the record at supermiddle weight and the second most defenses in history yet you don't think he's a world beater.

You laugh at me for thinking Virgil is not an all time great, but Calzaghe's record is even better and yet you don't rate him?

Not what i was saying at all Joe Calzaghe is a better fighter than Virgil Hill, i never said that and i never said i didn't rate Joe Calzaghe. And where did i say Joe Calzaghe isn't world beater ? why would i say that ? that would be ridiculous if i did say that, i just think his record has many question marks. The problem i had with your comment is right here in bold.

Clinton Woods, Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, decent fighters but not world beaters.

How in the world is Virgil Hill just a decent fighter and not a world beater, when he has 21 world title defenses combined, and also holds many other records aswell ?

And also reply to my other comment aswell above.

We're arguing semantics Ice, by world beater I meant they are not elite fighters, of the calibre of Toney, Hopkins and McCallum.

I'm sure you will be able to hit me with statistics to show that Hill is as good as the guys above but I think you know what I mean.

Hill was a good fighter but he's not at the level of the guys above