Calzaghe Hopkins II OFF.

[Pugilistic]

I think you should reconsider watching that fight without sound. I thought I remember you saying Marquez beat Pac too despite the Knockdowns. They don't mean much when you refuse to fight because you're under constant pressure like the one Joe put on hopkins.

You can argue all day and all night that he wasn't landing alot of effective punches but all you have to do is look at hopkins to know what effect they were having. Why didn't hopkins open up like he did with Pavlik, Tito and dlh? Because those were all smaller guys and he knew he could overpower them.

The most popular excuse of today is when guys say."I don't know why i just couldn't get off. It wasn't my night".

Translation for that, the other guy had a much better game plan and/or is a better fighter period. No way that fight with Joe and bernard was up in the air unless your a hopkins fan and have money riding on him.

Im not really gonna debate this because my other posts, pretty much say it all. But i've seen the fight twice with and without sound, and i would rather be totured than watch the fight again.

lol. I don't blame you for not ever wanting to see it again. Now tell me who made that fight so bad and unwatchable. It sure wasn't Joe.

It takes two to tango.

Joe's windmill slaps weren't exactly pleasing either.