Joe Calzaghe under the micoscope

[Fenster]

I never said, he DUCKED Bute. I was argue that he (or even Froch) would have been a better fight than freakin Manfredo. I'm not even being petty. I'm giving an example of the way Calzaghe has conducted his career, fighting the Manfredos, Kabary Salems, and Mger Mkrchians of the world. I'm even saying that he "ducked" anybody. He just didn't bother to fight them because he could get paid defending that stupid WBO trinket against third rate fighters. For years, he never made a reasonable attempt to unify. He never thought of abandoning his belt because the WBO's offering of manitory challengers was a joke. He held the belt fighting as many or more C-grade fighters than real contenders. They have been shifting tickets on mismatches for years with Calzaghe. That's exactly my point.

He gets credit, in this order for these fights:

He's fought two A-level fighters

Kessler, Hopkins

Here are the B-grades
Reid B+, Eubank (because he was shot, he falls here) B+, Lacy B, Sheika B , Mitchell B-, Bika B -, Veit C+.

The rest are crap, and notice, half of the decent names, including the two best, are in the last couple of years.

That's a good resume. Not a great one. And that's too bad, because he's a great fighter.

Let me put out a GREAT resume. Look at James Toney's resume at SMW and MW - Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum 2x, Iran Barkley, Reggie Johnson (prime),Charles Williams, oh, and a loss to an up and coming MW champ named Roy Jones Jr. Toss in Merqui Sosa and Tim Littles for fun.

That's a great resume.

Eubank fought one of his most impressive fights after Calzaghe. You can't say he was "shot." He took the fight at late-ish notice and had to struggle to get the weight off (that's the excuse i'm sure you was looking for ). Calzaghe had never been past 8 rounds (we can ignore that fact).

I think Toney was a great fighter. Those are some great wins (i'm sure if someone was petty enough they could take the form apart ). The majority of Toney's wins must have been against CRAP too, no?

So, in other words, you are admitting that Calzaghe beat a Eubank who was far from 100%. You know it, but you don't want to admit that it matters.

And sure, Toney fought a lot of crap. He was also fighting every two to three months for a stretch, sometimes even in back to back months. Toney fought where ever, whenever he could for a stretch. After the Iran Barkley fight, he fought 13 fights in two years, with the last one being Roy Jones. Joe wouldn't have bones in his hands that much. James Toney fought more rounds than Calzaghe has sparred.

If Calzaghe goes all the way up to Cruiser and beats a guy as good as Jirov was at CW, we can talk. Add up all Toney's wins against quality opposition and it will come out to nearly the total of Calzaghe's fights.

Err.. what don't i want to admit about Eubank? He was slightly past his best. Never seen anyone claim he was anything other. He still fought a cracking fight though.

Calzaghe didn't have to fight as much as Toney cause he ain't a fat fucker that needs the rounds to stay in shape.

I don't know why you are comparing them? They have both proven to be quality fighters. Both been very successful. Like all top quality fighters they have fought plenty of mediocre opposition compared with the top class opponents.