Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo View Post
Well if Roach has said this I think you can now comfortably put your house on Oscar winning in style.

This is the same Roach after all who claimed Isreal Vazquez shouldn't have been allowed to take the first rematch with Rafael Marquez because he was slurring his words and couldn't breathe properly still.

The same guy who said Bernard Hopkins shouldn't be fighting Kelly Pavlik because he was losing it and kept going to the wrong corner in the Calzaghe fight, a possible sign of being punchy.

The same guy who said James Toney should retire because his pitutary gland was fucked and that he was in serious danger of being hurt.

Now he says Oscar is being beat up in sparring.


Ok so what's the common theme here. Well how about this. All four of them were trained by Roach for big fights.

Vazquez vs Marquez 1
Hopkins vs Calzaghe
Toney vs Peter 1 & 2 (and a lot before)
Oscar vs Floyd

All four lost under Freddie Roach..

All four then let Freddi Roach go, his golden eggs being taken away from him.


Then Freddie always comes up with a reason why that fighter is finished and really shouldn't be fighting any more.

Also all 4 have gone on to win impressively without him afterwards, although Toney's win over Rahman was later ruled a no contest.


Sour grapes?

Couldn't be, could it?
Haha yeah it's pretty ridiculous when you lay it out like that. I always thought Freddie was a good man and he just legitimately got worried for his fighters, perhaps overly, which wouldn't neccesarily be a negative on him... But I really hadnt thought much about his track record behind such statements. Then again, in this case it isn't neccesarily sour grapes as his job is still to train Manny which means doing everything to ensure he is confident of winning, regardless what you have to say about the other guy.