Last edited by Deanrw; 11-04-2008 at 04:15 PM.
I guess we can add Kelly Pavlik to the list as well.Seeing how Hopkins made Pavlik a shot fighter after that loss.
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Well the ones that picked him I bet did not put money on him. I mean he was still game and was still an offensive power house, but he was certainly on the decline. Even if he was in his prime, he was tailor made for Floyd. I know I wanted him to beat Floyd and everyone else he fought, but he was still very vulnerable. I knew Floyd was going to eat him alive, even though my heart did not want to believe it.
He does deserve an entry into the Fall of Fame in my book though. Most exciting fighter of his generation by far.
Gatti WAS shot when Floyd got to him, a punishing De la Hoya fight followed by the Ward fights made sure of that. A prime Gatti facing Floyd would still lose anyway so I'm not taking nothing from Mayweather.
Castillo was fighting a good fight untill that left hook landed but I can't see how him being in his prime would dismiss the effects of a shot like that. I took a shot like that and I thought I had serious internal damage, never known pain like it.
I actually think the Tszyu fight had a huge effect on Ricky Hatton, he has never been the same since, his punch resistance is much worse. Maussa hurt him, Collazo hurt him, Urango hurt him, Mayweather certainly hurt him and so did Lazcano but he is still very capable i.e. not shot, just on the slide, after the Malignaggi fight he will be shot however.
I think sometimes you never know if a fighter is shot until they fight a top level guy, which might explain why no one claims they are shot before hand.
I dont know anyone who thought Gatti would win.
In fact, during the time, FLoyd was the fight that everyone kept telling gatti NOT to take. But gatti decided to take it anyway saying he had to prove a point. That he knows how tough a fight this is and he knows it's a fight he isn't supposed to win, but he doesn't want to duck.
How anyone thought Gatti would win this fight is pretty dumb.
Look back a lot of the guys on here thought Gatti would win, it was ridiculous, Roy JOnes told them so, and I was saying that Floyd would destroy Gatti all along. I think Gatti would have been destroyed by Mayweather even in his prime even if Mayweather weighed in at 130.
I don't think being shot is a permanent thing. I think you can eventually recover if you can adapt. Holyfield is considered shot because he isn't what he once was, but he could probably still beat 95% of the proffesional heavyweights.
Being shot is in comparison to your prime. I think prime Castillo would have beaten Hatton, he's just as good of an in fighter if not better, he hits harder, and could take a shot better.
What makes me laugh is that Hopkins beats a guy who is considered better than he is, and people think Hopkins is in the prime of his career at 43 because he didn't get the fights that he should have when he was younger(largely his own fault).
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