After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

[ICB]

yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

[GAME]

yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Fighters who stood off Jones got slaughtered

[porkypara]

yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Like who?

[ICB]

yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

[porkypara]

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

Both Vids wont play.


I am not doubting Roys greatness its just he was not unbeatable.

It has always bugged me why he did not fight Benn because it would have been a much bigger fight than any of the other he had at the time.
The only reason I can think of is because he feared Benns power.Which is also the reason he did not try to finnised hurt fighters.

[ICB]

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

Both Vids wont play.


I am not doubting Roys greatness its just he was not unbeatable.

It has always bugged me why he did not fight Benn because it would have been a much bigger fight than any of the other he had at the time.
The only reason I can think of is because he feared Benns power.Which is also the reason he did not try to finnised hurt fighters.

Porky RJJ slaughtered the fighter that should of had two wins over Nigel Benn, Thulani Malinga. Thulani Malinga at 40+ also defeated an undefeated Robin Reid.

[BIG H]

...and Pavlick beat Taylor, Taylor beat Hopkins, Hopkins beat Pavlick - means nothing.

But RJJ would've ruined Benn imo

[ICB]

...and Pavlick beat Taylor, Taylor beat Hopkins, Hopkins beat Pavlick - means nothing.

But RJJ would've ruined Benn imo

RJJ fought Thulani Malinga right after both Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, got gift decisions against Thulani Malinga.

[Fenster]

I watched that program and thought the same. Like all fighters Roy looked BEST against guys he was MUCH better than. Even though only highlights of fights, watching them back-to-back made me think i have OVERRATED him.

I think you're more impressionable when younger.

I was thinking, if that Roy Jones was around now, i certainly wouldn't have rated him as highly as i did back then.

[Taeth]

Roy Jones put on as good and dominating performances against the good fighters as he did against the bad.

The best fighters in his prime were Reggie Johnson, Virgill Hill, James Toney, Mike MaCcallum
He was the first guy to ko Hill but before that he was dominating him.
He was the first guy to seriously hurt Reggie Johnson(look his career please), and he won every round in that fight where he landed like 50% of his punches and Reggie landed 10% of his(a very fast southpaw with boxing skills once against watch him against James Toney).
James Toney: Around that time considered the best or second best fighter on the planet, when has anybody dominated the top or one of the top two fighters in the world like that?
Mike MacCallum: He was old, but he still was fighting well if you go by his other fights. Roy played with him, a guy who either a few months before or after fights TOney to a SD.

Who was Roy fighting in his prime that you guys saw him against?
Roy dominated opponents way bigger than him as well, people are picky about his competition, but most of these guys could have foughten at cruiserweight easily, and they would have mauled the likes of Calzaghe, yet Roy's combinations and speed had them usually backing away because they couldn't deal with it.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

i've always felt roy was overrated......i think he did well at a time when there really was no other A class fighters in his division, he never fought the guy that was seen as the ligit light heavy champ saying HE'S the man so doesn't have to go fight some other belt holder.............. and the fact he never gave hopkins and toney rematchs says alot.........why did he leave the mid and super mids so quickly and go the a redundent l heavy

still he was very fast, but cant take a good shot, had good skills and very popular with fans

[Markusdarkus]

Roy was never busy enough and spent too long of his peak fighting cans to be judged.

Is up there with Calzaghe and Hopkins.

[Nameless]

Nobody's unbeatable, even the best has his bad day at the office from time to time and in boxing, nobody's protected from THE punch that makes all the difference. Jones wasn't unbeatable, sure, but talent wise, he was the best rounded fighter of his generation and was in a totally other class where no other fighter belongs.

[kingfrnk]

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

Both Vids wont play.


I am not doubting Roys greatness its just he was not unbeatable.

It has always bugged me why he did not fight Benn because it would have been a much bigger fight than any of the other he had at the time.
The only reason I can think of is because he feared Benns power.Which is also the reason he did not try to finnised hurt fighters.

hmm, both worked fine for me Brannon put up a decent fight for the first minute then Roy beat him like he owed him money

[Taeth]

yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Like who?

Merqui Sosa, Julio Gonzalez, At times David Telesco, James Toney(when he tried to keep Roy on the ropes), Pazienza, Bannon, Clinton Woods... he fought more swarmers then anything else.

Watch him against Telesco or a legit fighter like Reggie Johnson you will see Roy using absolutely amazing combinations nobody ever even thought of. Once again say which fight you were watching because IMO there are only one fight in his prime that makes him look beatable and thats against Montell Griffin, He didn't prepare well enough for that fight and underestimated Griffin, but look what happened in the second fight.

The other fight was against Eric Harding and he was already 33, but he just didn't get off.

As for Nigel Benn, are you kidding me? Nigel Benn was a B class fighter who was beaten by almost every good fighter he faced. Roy would have knocked him out in the early rounds, Benn was so slow, so technically poor he would have been eaten alive. Nigel Benn is the most overrated fighter from the 90's.

The two guys I see giving Roy Jones Jr the most trouble would have to have been
prime Michael Nunn(so tall and fast, I think it would be an interesting match up)
and Thomas Hearns(once again almost impossible to outbox) however I likely see Roy ko'ing him with a right hand because he is so open for it, and he would have never seen anybody throw the punches that Jones does which IMO would throw him off badly.

I think Michael Spinks is too slow and easy to counter
Gerald McClellan I don't think could deal with both Roy's speed and power as a pro, but he would be number 3.
Ezzard Charles: I don't think he would be able to cope with Roy's speed being significantly faster than his own.
Billy Conn: Once again, a great fighter but I think Roy out thinks him, and is just too fast for him to adapt to.

But of all the fighters Roy could have foughtne in his prime or before he went to HW (McClellan, Toneyx2, Hopkinsx2, Nunn, C. Collins, Benn, Eubanks, Calzaghe) I think Benn and Chris Collins are the easiest opponents by far for Jones.