After watching a prime Roy Jones on TV last night he was far from unbeatable.

[ICB]

yeh i was dthinking the same thing watching it.. dont get me wrong great fighter, but far from unbeatable..

I also feel that calzaghe would of given him a real test.. he would of bin all over Roy like a rash..

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

[porkypara]

Fighters who swarmed Roy Jones Jr in his prime got slaughtered.

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

Both Vids wont play.


I am not doubting Roys greatness its just he was not unbeatable.

It has always bugged me why he did not fight Benn because it would have been a much bigger fight than any of the other he had at the time.
The only reason I can think of is because he feared Benns power.Which is also the reason he did not try to finnised hurt fighters.

[ICB]

Like who?

Merqui Sosa who had an iron chin and had never been knocked down, coming into the RJJ fight got slaughtered when he tried to swarm.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_WLsBXv1LF4

And also check out RJJ's fight with Bryant Brannon, who is similar to Glen Johnson.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=r6d0WOk-QuU

Both Vids wont play.


I am not doubting Roys greatness its just he was not unbeatable.

It has always bugged me why he did not fight Benn because it would have been a much bigger fight than any of the other he had at the time.
The only reason I can think of is because he feared Benns power.Which is also the reason he did not try to finnised hurt fighters.

Porky RJJ slaughtered the fighter that should of had two wins over Nigel Benn, Thulani Malinga. Thulani Malinga at 40+ also defeated an undefeated Robin Reid.

[BIG H]

...and Pavlick beat Taylor, Taylor beat Hopkins, Hopkins beat Pavlick - means nothing.

But RJJ would've ruined Benn imo

[ICB]

...and Pavlick beat Taylor, Taylor beat Hopkins, Hopkins beat Pavlick - means nothing.

But RJJ would've ruined Benn imo

RJJ fought Thulani Malinga right after both Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, got gift decisions against Thulani Malinga.

[Fenster]

I watched that program and thought the same. Like all fighters Roy looked BEST against guys he was MUCH better than. Even though only highlights of fights, watching them back-to-back made me think i have OVERRATED him.

I think you're more impressionable when younger.

I was thinking, if that Roy Jones was around now, i certainly wouldn't have rated him as highly as i did back then.

[Taeth]

Roy Jones put on as good and dominating performances against the good fighters as he did against the bad.

The best fighters in his prime were Reggie Johnson, Virgill Hill, James Toney, Mike MaCcallum
He was the first guy to ko Hill but before that he was dominating him.
He was the first guy to seriously hurt Reggie Johnson(look his career please), and he won every round in that fight where he landed like 50% of his punches and Reggie landed 10% of his(a very fast southpaw with boxing skills once against watch him against James Toney).
James Toney: Around that time considered the best or second best fighter on the planet, when has anybody dominated the top or one of the top two fighters in the world like that?
Mike MacCallum: He was old, but he still was fighting well if you go by his other fights. Roy played with him, a guy who either a few months before or after fights TOney to a SD.

Who was Roy fighting in his prime that you guys saw him against?
Roy dominated opponents way bigger than him as well, people are picky about his competition, but most of these guys could have foughten at cruiserweight easily, and they would have mauled the likes of Calzaghe, yet Roy's combinations and speed had them usually backing away because they couldn't deal with it.

[The Fightfan]

I think Benn,Collins, Eubank would all have been great fight's but both parties really didn't want to travel. Another fighter that comes to mind is Dariusz Michalewski (I know I destroyed that name). These two could have met many of times but for simply money the fight was never made. I like Roy but I don't think he was invincible Super middleweight's he never fought the top dog's at lightheavy he didn't either.

[Memphis]

I ended up thinking the same to be honest.

Benn would have seriously got fucked up though

[ICB]

I think Benn,Collins, Eubank would all have been great fight's but both parties really didn't want to travel. Another fighter that comes to mind is Dariusz Michalewski (I know I destroyed that name). These two could have met many of times but for simply money the fight was never made. I like Roy but I don't think he was invincible Super middleweight's he never fought the top dog's at lightheavy he didn't either.

RJJ beat the man that took Dariusz's 48-0 record, Julio Cesar Gonzalez.

[NUCLEAR BULL]

i've always felt roy was overrated......i think he did well at a time when there really was no other A class fighters in his division, he never fought the guy that was seen as the ligit light heavy champ saying HE'S the man so doesn't have to go fight some other belt holder.............. and the fact he never gave hopkins and toney rematchs says alot.........why did he leave the mid and super mids so quickly and go the a redundent l heavy

still he was very fast, but cant take a good shot, had good skills and very popular with fans

[No Contest]

So? You can say the same thing about Calzaghe. Robin Reid 116-111 116-111 111-116 It must have been the different view for that judge...

[Taeth]

i've always felt roy was overrated......i think he did well at a time when there really was no other A class fighters in his division, he never fought the guy that was seen as the ligit light heavy champ saying HE'S the man so doesn't have to go fight some other belt holder.............. and the fact he never gave hopkins and toney rematchs says alot.........why did he leave the mid and super mids so quickly and go the a redundent l heavy

still he was very fast, but cant take a good shot, had good skills and very popular with fans

He took enough shots in his prime that people knew he could take a punch. Also you should get your facts straight, Hopkins always bullshitted his way out of the rematch, I honestly don't think he wanted it. Roy let HBO try to get any fight with him based on a 60/40 or 70/30 split(with lesser fighters) and HBO thought it was reasonable, but before one of Roy's fights I think against Brannon they acknowledged that nobody would fight Roy.

[Taeth]

HERE IT IS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjvBq...eature=related
Chris Collin, Nigel Benn, Frankie Lyle, and Hopkins was hesistent
but they wouldn't fight him like I said.

[Markusdarkus]

Roy was never busy enough and spent too long of his peak fighting cans to be judged.

Is up there with Calzaghe and Hopkins.