How are blacks treated in the UK?

[Trainer Monkey]

Since it was the UK who began the slave trade in the 16th century, how were blacks treated after their so called freedom in the 1800's? And did the British go about treating blacks like we did here in the US as late as the 1960's?

WOW... you seriously need a history lesson. First off, I'm assuming you're referring to the Transatlantic slave trade, which was started around 1452 by the PORTUGUESE AND THE SPANISH.

[ History of slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]

Slavery is as old as war, prostitution, and religion, and there is no group of people that's not guilty of it.

Truth be told, the American slaves were the best treated in history- doesn't make it right, but it speaks to your statement about the treatment of blacks.

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

[hfahrenheit]

Since it was the UK who began the slave trade in the 16th century, how were blacks treated after their so called freedom in the 1800's? And did the British go about treating blacks like we did here in the US as late as the 1960's?

WOW... you seriously need a history lesson. First off, I'm assuming you're referring to the Transatlantic slave trade, which was started around 1452 by the PORTUGUESE AND THE SPANISH.

[ History of slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]

Slavery is as old as war, prostitution, and religion, and there is no group of people that's not guilty of it.

Truth be told, the American slaves were the best treated in history- doesn't make it right, but it speaks to your statement about the treatment of blacks.

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

[Kirkland Laing]

Britain got rid of a bunch of nuts who thought they were god's chosen people who went to America and unfortunately instilled a distilled WASPy character into early America that continues to this day. Good for business but unpleasant for anybody on the end of it. The Dutch did the same thing 150 years ago, giving a bunch of fuckers that thought they were god's chosen ones a free one-way cruise to the other end of the world. It didn't work out too well for the indigenous peoples of South Africa but it made Holland the country it is today.

[Trainer Monkey]

WOW... you seriously need a history lesson. First off, I'm assuming you're referring to the Transatlantic slave trade, which was started around 1452 by the PORTUGUESE AND THE SPANISH.

[ History of slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]

Slavery is as old as war, prostitution, and religion, and there is no group of people that's not guilty of it.

Truth be told, the American slaves were the best treated in history- doesn't make it right, but it speaks to your statement about the treatment of blacks.

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Come now,youve seen a white couple cross the street when they see a black man, youve had a white friend tell this harrowing tale of how he ended up in a black neighborhood by accident.
Now considering the power structure of this country, and considering those very same pre-dispositions. When an African-American applies for a job, what do you think is going to happen?
Ive lived in predominantly African American communities, and even for those years when I heavily used drugs.
Even in their own neighborhood, if it was me and him, I knew I had the job.
We've come a long way,heck I have too, but dont fool yourself that we've come all the way

[sonny78]

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Come now,youve seen a white couple cross the street when they see a black man, youve had a white friend tell this harrowing tale of how he ended up in a black neighborhood by accident.
Now considering the power structure of this country, and considering those very same pre-dispositions. When an African-American applies for a job, what do you think is going to happen?
Ive lived in predominantly African American communities, and even for those years when I heavily used drugs.
Even in their own neighborhood, if it was me and him, I knew I had the job.
We've come a long way,heck I have too, but dont fool yourself that we've come all the way

I would be very surprised in the uk to see a white couple cross the street just because they saw a black man

unless it was a bad area and or the black man looked dodgy (poor, on drugs hood up scarf wrapped up) the same rule would apply to white man

as for a harrowing tale of ending up in a black neighbour hood I don't think that's racist, there is a large black neighbour hood near me if I was to walk through there at night I could probably give you a harrowing tale, its a fucking shit hole and most of the gangs who hang around there would mug anyone who walked through at night by themselves.

However this is also true of the predominately white estate a few miles down the road I see this as more of a poverty issue and the insular nature of poor neighbourhoods or estates a stranger sticks out a mile and is made to feel nervous

[Drago]

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Come now,youve seen a white couple cross the street when they see a black man, youve had a white friend tell this harrowing tale of how he ended up in a black neighborhood by accident.
Now considering the power structure of this country, and considering those very same pre-dispositions. When an African-American applies for a job, what do you think is going to happen?
Ive lived in predominantly African American communities, and even for those years when I heavily used drugs.
Even in their own neighborhood, if it was me and him, I knew I had the job.
We've come a long way,heck I have too, but dont fool yourself that we've come all the way

my mate is from uganda and moved here when he was 10yrs old, he has gotten all the decent jobs and been promoted without trying, he says its cos he is black. he is in forensics with no qualifications in that field. he says he makes the most of it

[hfahrenheit]

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Come now,youve seen a white couple cross the street when they see a black man, youve had a white friend tell this harrowing tale of how he ended up in a black neighborhood by accident.
Now considering the power structure of this country, and considering those very same pre-dispositions. When an African-American applies for a job, what do you think is going to happen?
Ive lived in predominantly African American communities, and even for those years when I heavily used drugs.
Even in their own neighborhood, if it was me and him, I knew I had the job.
We've come a long way,heck I have too, but dont fool yourself that we've come all the way

Look bro, I'm a white kid from the ghetto too, and I appreciate your candidness about addiction- seriously, congrats on being clean. That's a helluva hard thing for some people to over come and I'm glad you made it out.

Human beings will never cease to be "racist". Never, ever. It's completely primal. It's an ingrained trait to all humans to treat others differently from those you identify with. I'm kind of getting out of my league here, but in layman's terms, it stems from the moment you develop your sense of "you"; when you become aware that you are separate from your parents. In human behavior, we all have different ways of treating people: we treat ourselves differently than we treat our immediate family, then our friends differently than that, and then we have a unique way we deal with strangers. In an extremely generalized, summarized way of putting it, this is where "racism" comes from, in our treatment/reaction to strangers. Inherently, we take everything we know about someone's appearance/behavior and do a threat assessment. Pure and simple. Black people are 14% of the population (US), but responsible for a solid majority of the violent crime. So crossing the street to avoid a possible threat and avoiding black neighborhoods isn't racism, it's good common sense.

It's nothing specific to black people, it's just the rules of poverty. You would expect the same in Manchester or in parts of Ireland, Hong Kong, whatever.

So, my point is that racism will never go away, but despite the power structure and any predispositions, in America, there's plenty of opportunity for those who want it. Anybody who wants a job can get one, otherwise there wouldn't be 12 million illegal Mexicans here working. Oh sure, it may not be the job you want, but it's a job. There's a reason that on average Mexicans become middle class within 5 years of moving here, and that systemic poverty is a problem among blacks. ONLY BLACKS. Not Mexicans, Asians, Arabs, Whites, or any other ethnic group. Are the "controlling whites authorities" only suppressing black people?

Lookit man, I'm a middle class white guy living in the American South not 30 miles from a famous old plantation (Marlsgate), and my last 4 bosses were black people from the South- 3 men, 1 woman. Now these were educated professionals working in technical fields (Information Technology, Comunications Security, and Logistics Management) and making around 100k. They didn't need any sympathy from anybody- their words not mine: "Nobody's making you sell drugs or get pregnant in high school, and nobody's forcing you to make bad grades in high school." It only takes a "C" average and an 18 or better ACT score to get into a state college, and if you're black and poor, it's not only free, but you MAKE MONEY off the grants. YOU'RE PAID TO GO TO COLLEGE. And if you happen to make good grades at that state school, (usually a 3.8 or better), you can get into a damn good private college at an affordble rate if not for free.

Doesn't matter who you are, if you want it bad enough, you get can it. Some people have to work harder than others, it's a fact of life. But in America, it's not a problem of opportunity.

[Trainer Monkey]

WOW... you seriously need a history lesson. First off, I'm assuming you're referring to the Transatlantic slave trade, which was started around 1452 by the PORTUGUESE AND THE SPANISH.

[ History of slavery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ]

Slavery is as old as war, prostitution, and religion, and there is no group of people that's not guilty of it.

Truth be told, the American slaves were the best treated in history- doesn't make it right, but it speaks to your statement about the treatment of blacks.

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Actually Sierra Leone and Liberia were founded by freed slaves

[hfahrenheit]

Actually you need one to.
American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Actually Sierra Leone and Liberia were founded by freed slaves

Fair enough, but compared to the numbers that stayed, it wouldn't necessarily be called "mass", (moot point if you ask me). However, I wasn't as specific as I should have been- I'm talking about current population trends, as I meant there are no current trends of mass movement to Africa by the descendants of slaves.

[Trainer Monkey]

None of this,

"American slaves used to be routinely whipped to the bone, and children would be routinely stolen from their mothers for training purposes or selling purposes.
The shacks they lived in, are all gone mostly, except those that have been preserved, they were built so s-y"

disproves my point. All that "routine" behavior is completely typical of how human beings treat those that are "enslaved" to them. Because of the time period, their standard of living, (however sh$tty), was still better than those that came before them.

There is no historical data other than that associated with Nazi's, and the Bible (if you accept it as a credible source) that concludes or says that any group of people had it worse than the Jews.

But, you're the one who's going to give me a history lesson, so let's have all of your evidence that disproves anything I just stated.

Also, to the original point of the thread, there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment and all the while are squandering the greatest opportunity in history--we have a black president after all. Just think, without slavery, they'd still be on the wonderful continent of Africa. As truly glorious as I'm sure some places in Africa are, I don't see any mass movement of blacks back to Africa. They live in the greatest country in history and are afforded the greatest opportunity history- they should be thankful everyday for the sacrifices that put them here, just like everybody else who lives here.

Actually Sierra Leone and Liberia were founded by freed slaves

Fair enough, but compared to the numbers that stayed, it wouldn't necessarily be called "mass", (moot point if you ask me). However, I wasn't as specific as I should have been- I'm talking about current population trends, as I meant there are no current trends of mass movement to Africa by the descendants of slaves.

Even if you could afford to move to Africa,which most African Americans cant, why would you?
You dont speak the language,there's political strife over most of the continent thanks to most of the puppet governments the US and Britain set up. And its hotter then hell.
I know something about this,I lived in Florida for a year,and even that was like landing on a different planet.

[Wayne]

Also, to the original point of the thread[/b], there's never been a time in history when a conquered people (slaves), were freed because of the conscience of their captors, and then (this part is the exception; the slaves did not lead the revolt as in previous slave wars), the captors go to war with each other over their emancipation and consequently over 618,000 die. So I give kudos to the people of that century for having the presence of mind to end a brutal human practice, but I also fault the modern day blacks who whine and complain about mistreatment

I'm sorry to be gruesome here, but some people need to have the blindfold stripped from their eyes...

Emmitt Till 1955 before:



And after:



Rodney King-1991:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROn_9302UHg

Malice Green-1992:



James Byrd-1998:



Brandon McClelland-2008:



The word "whining" used in this context is just as irresponsible as saying racism in America is "over". The fact we have a black president doesn't change as much as you think. Sure it's not every white person and neither would I imply as such, just like I can't dispute that some black people aren't whiners. But those people are no different than their white counterparts who also grab onto anything to complain about, proclaiming the world is somehow against them. To apply such an unqualified generalization about black people, cemented by the citing of our 44th president's ethnicity is deeply offensive. But I suppose you may sweep me into the pile of those "whiners".

[El Kabong]

Well buddy I know bad things still happen to ALL kinds of people because of racism. I just want people to realize that racism, bigotry, etc is not strictly confined to the Southeastern United States.

People wrongly think that because of the Civil War and the segregation in the South that racism is only here.....well if people taught history a bit better they would realize segregation was in a number of places outside the South and the Civil War was fought because of the economy and not slavery. Slavery was used as a rallying cry by Lincoln to gain support for the Union and grow the Union forces. Sorry if anyone has been taught otherwise but it's the truth.


There are a ton of racists in the north but noooooobody will admit it

[Trainer Monkey]

Well buddy I know bad things still happen to ALL kinds of people because of racism. I just want people to realize that racism, bigotry, etc is not strictly confined to the Southeastern United States.

People wrongly think that because of the Civil War and the segregation in the South that racism is only here.....well if people taught history a bit better they would realize segregation was in a number of places outside the South and the Civil War was fought because of the economy and not slavery. Slavery was used as a rallying cry by Lincoln to gain support for the Union and grow the Union forces. Sorry if anyone has been taught otherwise but it's the truth.


There are a ton of racists in the north but noooooobody will admit it

I was raised in the north,and Id be the first to admit it
Look no further then the York PA riots

[Wayne]

Well buddy I know bad things still happen to ALL kinds of people because of racism. I just want people to realize that racism, bigotry, etc is not strictly confined to the Southeastern United States.

People wrongly think that because of the Civil War and the segregation in the South that racism is only here.....well if people taught history a bit better they would realize segregation was in a number of places outside the South and the Civil War was fought because of the economy and not slavery. Slavery was used as a rallying cry by Lincoln to gain support for the Union and grow the Union forces. Sorry if anyone has been taught otherwise but it's the truth.


There are a ton of racists in the north but noooooobody will admit it

Nail on the head, Lyle. The biggest difference between racists in the North and racists in the South is the northern ones do it behind your back.

And the Civil War was about economy but slavery was a BIG tie-in to what made the southern economy run. A lot of northerners thought it was unfair that the South essentially had free labor and they butted heads over new states coming into the union being allowed to adopt slavery as a practice. If anything, Lincoln was indifferent about slavery, he wasn't pro-negro despite textbooks painting him as the Great Emancipator. Many of the advances blacks got was because northerners were busy trying to stick it to the South. If they South had been allowed to secede their economy would have failed and they would have come crawling back to join up. I'm kidding, I have no idea about that one, but I heard it said.

[Master]

Interesting reading over the three pages.

Religion was used to justify slavery through racist ideas of separate races when in fact it was purely economics that was the reason why it was justified.

Africa as well as some of the other countries like India could have been far more prosperous than they are now (Note I said could), had they not been stripped of their resources and wealth.

I do not believe that we are all inherently racist, I believe if you interact with various groups of people from different backgrounds then your perspective will broaden and more likely to be understanding.

I also believe that an individual is always responsible for their actions and it is they that should be held accountable for them. Some people face more holes in the ground that they have to jump over in their life than others do but it is always their responsibility not to fall in them.

However, I like the poster that said “we have come a long way but we are not all the way yet”.