Should taller fighters throw Overhand Rights? Why or why not?

[Trainer Monkey]

Would you tell a fighter not to throw a jab because he could not throw it as fast as ali of course not, i was hardly comparing anyone in the forum to lenox lewis i was giving you a example of this punch being used by a taller fighter he is not the only one both the Klichkos use it as well, what all the guys here are saying is simple that it is an effective shot but should be used sparingly and should not be discounted as there is no rule so to speak about any punch they all have a time and a place the right cross is more effective because the chances of a counter are smaller but overhand has its place when you have a man in trouble

The big overhand right is an energy waster,I hate a double up style and I hate a pawing jab,it doesnt mean some guys cant get away with it, but I wouldnt bet your the one who can. It was a hard fast rule question. And the hard fast rule, is dont do it if your the taller fighter,I explained, its a waste of both defense and energy for a taller fighter. Its simple force ratio, you have to exude more force to get the shot going. You get tired late in a round throwing those things. And your wide open the entire time. So for a taller fighter, it makes more logical sense to throw a tight cross rather then a big overhand one. Most of the big guys who throw big overs,spend alot of time picking their shots rather then barraging

[mrodub]

Well all along i have said it is a shot to be used sparingly,when the man is worn down,or a finisher, so if a fighter uses the shot the way i said he will not waste energy if he goes wading in with any punch he will get tired.
You have said i leaves you open well if a fighter complety discounts the shot when he has a man hurt he runs the risk of letting the other guy off the hook and posibly losing a fight he could have finished with a nice placed overhand right.That seems silly to me.

[Trainer Monkey]

Well all along i have said it is a shot to be used sparingly,when the man is worn down,or a finisher, so if a fighter uses the shot the way i said he will not waste energy if he goes wading in with any punch he will get tired.
You have said i leaves you open well if a fighter complety discounts the shot when he has a man hurt he runs the risk of letting the other guy off the hook and posibly losing a fight he could have finished with a nice placed overhand right.That seems silly to me.

You slip it,jab, then hook to the body,, and step out, you can do it all night against a taller fighter who's throwing a looping cross.
Its just very bad tactics

[mrodub]

I am not talking about throwing it all night i am talking about using it against a worn down opponant or to finish off a man i have said this over and over.
In the oriniganl post he asked about an overhand right so i am not sure what you mean in your last post Trainer Monkey will you post again please because i dont understand thanks

[Youngblood]

I am not talking about throwing it all night i am talking about using it against a worn down opponant or to finish off a man i have said this over and over.
In the oriniganl post he asked about an overhand right so i am not sure what you mean in your last post Trainer Monkey will you post again please because i dont understand thanks

Yup...it's the shot you want to take em down with...or atleast put a nice dent in the armour.

[Trainer Monkey]

I am not talking about throwing it all night i am talking about using it against a worn down opponant or to finish off a man i have said this over and over.
In the oriniganl post he asked about an overhand right so i am not sure what you mean in your last post Trainer Monkey will you post again please because i dont understand thanks

It feels so good in the ring, guys tend to over use it.
But since it lands so rarely, your blowing your steam
I mean if its wide screaming open, you take the shot thats available, but really thats a shot if your the taller fighter you get like every 3rd fight at best, so its not a good shot to concentrate on. But guys will fall in love with it, and get their selves in to trouble for it, because it feels like Christmas Morning when you land it. Ive seen way too many fighters gas out, or get popped when they didnt need to because of that looping overhand cross, Id rather see the tight cross, if you put your hips behind a tight cross, you dont need that big looping mess of a punch. Theres just no point to that punch,except requesting to get countered, and requesting to be tired by the second round. I mean maybe as a finisher for a guy the ref should have stopped a minute earlier,but thats all it is.
It looks good on camera,but it isnt good buisness

[mrodub]

I hear what your saying so maybe the issue is not the shot but the disipline about when to use it.As for it being useless the last three heavyweight champs would disagree

[Scrap]

Done properly with good Technique, its one of the Best Shots there is in certain situations.

[Trainer Monkey]

I hear what your saying so maybe the issue is not the shot but the disipline about when to use it.As for it being useless the last three heavyweight champs would disagree

Bingo,that was what I was going for,it gets overused so often its sad. You should only be throwing that punch maybe once or twice in a fight

[Trainer Monkey]

Well all along i have said it is a shot to be used sparingly,when the man is worn down,or a finisher, so if a fighter uses the shot the way i said he will not waste energy if he goes wading in with any punch he will get tired.
You have said i leaves you open well if a fighter complety discounts the shot when he has a man hurt he runs the risk of letting the other guy off the hook and posibly losing a fight he could have finished with a nice placed overhand right.That seems silly to me.

Your not thinking about a very nice overhand right,what was described in the first post is an over extended overhand right.
A nice tight cross,sure,go for it, the cross described in the lead post is over extended. Theres no point to a taller fighter throwing that shot.