Yea Salty...my shoulders and upper back are ripped right now, like seriously ripped. I m trying to listen to Scrap and cut back a bit. lol trying *I promise Scrap...after this fight...I'm gonna be a lazy lump for a while!

TM, I think you are likely right. It seems excessive to hope for 165.

I suppose I'll just keep eating as much as possible and see where I get. It's a bit of a damned if you do, or don't situation with the working out here. I suppose will just try to do the minimum...as my cardio is already good.