Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
I think it works great against a shorter fighter, especially when you start timing their jab. The movement knocks their jab off course and allows your overhand right to connect perfectly as they walk in, does some great damage.
What your saying isnt a looping shot though is it?

For a big bloke to use it against a short bloke, an angled fist with elbow down as in a straight shot over the top of their jab from over the top of their elbow point can do that nicley with less of an opening left.

The overhand bomb leaves alot of space as its a looping shot over their bicep or shoulder , I think its better suited to if you have ducked and gone under the arm; or switched feet and threw over the top of what was comming at you as you switched, or pin the jab or even knock the jab with your lead and come over it with your rear arm (like Kt would do ,measure with the ariel and then come over it or through it once it had covered his intention.) All suited more to the same size opponents or shorter or for fighters with flexable legs who can roll, move and shoot in one action.
Me and Andre are on the same page here, but Im going to add again, the tendency to overuse the looper. On the rare occasions it lands(Ive thrown it,everyone has at some point) it feels swwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeettttttttt.
And once something gets good to a boxer its hard to get them to go with their own self preservation over their animal instincts. The animal says, "It felt good to drill someone that hard in combat" your brain should be saying "You know,I got really lucky throwing that stupid punch"
Once it lands for you for the first time, it feels so good, your going to want to do it again.
One of the things in any form of combat,is to tell yourself, "Its a great story, but remember to never do that again"
An illustration using the medieval combat I used to do.
Its crown tourney
I pull a fight with one of the best fighters the SCA has ever seen.
I take a point of honor against him (Id technically wounded him so he went to his knees because of a legal blow to the legs) so I wounded myself to end up on my knees with him.i.e taking a point of honor
I hear him say in no uncertain words ,"You arrogant son of a bitch"
I got him on one of his own shots,I cocked my shield and did a thrust shot from behind it,even he was suprised.
If you knew the SCA, that would be a great story. But I dont think Id ever try that again, because if you replayed the scenario 10 more times,I get smoked 10 for 10 trying that.
Yeah it worked that day, but I had the common sense to not even try that routine again, it was just a stupid lucky shot
Ive had the looping overhand cross land for me in the ring,and while it makes for a great story,I wouldnt make my bread and butter off it. Because 10 of 10 the rest of the time you get your ass handed to you for even trying it.

And because posts like this makes Ices head hurt,bro, look up the Society For Creative Anachronisms and it will make a little more sense. I did that for a very long time, and even bring techniques in from it to get my fighters moving their hips better,and it almost allways works, guys will go from hitting like girls to taking peoples heads off almost over night