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    Right I think i get it!

    I was thinking about where the real life target might move in sparring and you're being more specific about how to use the bag!

    I think I understand thanks TM and Salty!

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    It depends where the Backfoot is in relation to the Target. Power comes from you using Gravity, not Gravity using you, it Hurts. When driving Forward you should push back the secret is How the left shoulder works thats what stabalises the right side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharla View Post
    Right I think i get it!

    I was thinking about where the real life target might move in sparring and you're being more specific about how to use the bag!

    I think I understand thanks TM and Salty!
    There you go,its just a way to visualize your punch,I hate to use a golf analogy,only because I hate golf
    If you just got the club to the ball and didnt follow through,the ball goes 10 feet max. If you drive through the ball,significantly further.
    The whole,your right cross shouldnt hit in the same area as your jab thing must have gotten started by someone who didnt understand the visualization process,because actually one twoing to the same area shouldnt even be a question with those punches. Its a non-sensical combo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharla View Post
    Right I think i get it!

    I was thinking about where the real life target might move in sparring and you're being more specific about how to use the bag!

    I think I understand thanks TM and Salty!
    There you go,its just a way to visualize your punch,I hate to use a golf analogy,only because I hate golf
    If you just got the club to the ball and didnt follow through,the ball goes 10 feet max. If you drive through the ball,significantly further.
    The whole,your right cross shouldnt hit in the same area as your jab thing must have gotten started by someone who didnt understand the visualization process,because actually one twoing to the same area shouldnt even be a question with those punches. Its a non-sensical combo
    you could have used baseball instead
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    Yeah I guess this all makes sense thanks TM.

    Scrap I understand that the left shoulder moving back will allow the right shoulder to come forward and I know that you need to be able to push off the ball of your rear foot.


    I am wondering how much of a role is played by the ball of your front foot. My initial thought was that the angle of that foot would have to be spot on because if it was too far inwards it would interfere with the rotation.

    Then I thought if I wasn't leaning too far foreward at all I would not need to balance using that front foot.

    So does the front foot really do anything while you throw the cross when your posture is correct?

    Is it make any mistakes with that front foot that could totally stuff up our cross?


    Also cocobeware the reason I ask about your glove size is because I had a pair of 16 ounces once which had the padding distributed in the wrong place and they were too wide so they would brush each other when I used normal technique. I would never have the same problem with 10 or 12 ounce gloves or some other brands of 16 ounce gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hfahrenheit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sharla View Post
    Right I think i get it!

    I was thinking about where the real life target might move in sparring and you're being more specific about how to use the bag!

    I think I understand thanks TM and Salty!
    There you go,its just a way to visualize your punch,I hate to use a golf analogy,only because I hate golf
    If you just got the club to the ball and didnt follow through,the ball goes 10 feet max. If you drive through the ball,significantly further.
    The whole,your right cross shouldnt hit in the same area as your jab thing must have gotten started by someone who didnt understand the visualization process,because actually one twoing to the same area shouldnt even be a question with those punches. Its a non-sensical combo
    you could have used baseball instead
    The difference between a bunt and a home run was the other analogy I was going to consider but I didnt think our non American friends would get that so reluctantly I went with golf

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    Sharla, the front foot is your direction the back foot is your distance. If theres to much weight on your front foot its hard to move direction. Plus you lose Oral stability, youve lost Balance, Gravity is the winner. What you are looking at is the floor, the place you are going to finnish up pick your spot.
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    I think I understand. I'll have to let it sink in a bit and get back to you. Thanks Scrap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Sharla, the front foot is your direction the back foot is your distance. If theres to much weight on your front foot its hard to move direction. Plus you lose Oral stability, youve lost Balance, Gravity is the winner. What you are looking at is the floor, the place you are going to finnish up pick your spot.
    Balance is absolutely vital, if you lose your center line, youve allready lost, maybe not tonight,but you will lose because of it

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    Sorry to bring this up again but just noticed this thing which probably demonstrates what im talking about i know this sounds a bit stuipid but if you look at the little smiley face each glove does not cross over each other also here is a clip from an instructional video which sort of talks about the same thing but is hard to tell from the video and if you look near the end of the floyd mayweather clip on the heavy bag you will see what i mean however at the start of the clip they cross over when he is on the mitts.So which is the correct way,Is one way more suitable to the mits and the other the heavybag,What would be most appropriate for a real opponent?




    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2qqtwf...eature=related
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KQICD3DZbRI
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    Power is deliverd by not going forward with a Punch. The more the Head moves forward, direction and power are lost ,gravity wins.
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    so what youre saying is they shouldnt cross over??

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocobeware View Post
    so what youre saying is they shouldnt cross over??
    He is saying the opposite, to achieve power in your shots you torque your whole body while keeping oral stability. Maximum torque is achieved when you don't lean forward (loss of oral stability; which causes a disequilibrium of balance as your body topples forward), to counter act this your body must stabilise it self in order to remain upright, this restabilisation is what causes the loss in power. So basically keep your head in the same position and put your legs, hips, core, shoulders and finally arms into the punch and you will knock down brick walls.
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    In other words, you want to torque your core in to your shots,not throw your arm or your body in to it, its the torque from your hip traveling to your shoulder that creates power.
    Not big muscles in your arm,their helpful, but thats not really where your power is coming from,big biceps are more to impress chicks

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    yes i think i understand the mechanics of the punch pretty well its just the placment of the punch i dont understand??

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