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Do you know the chronology of this? The big fight between Roy and Dariusz was before Roy ever moved up to heavyweight, and Dariusz ended up losing to a guy Roy pummelled for 12 rounds in Julio Gonzalez anyways. Dariusz was overrated.

Did you watch the ROy JOnes jr- Bernard Hopkins fight? By the middle Roy was landing 50% of his shots to like 20% connection for Bernard. A few times Bernard thought he had Roy figured out only to come out the next round and have Roy make the adjustments that would totally throw Bernard off again. All this was done without him being able to throw his right cross effectively. He was throwing it with an open hand all night. Roy wasn't as effective as he was in some fights, but he still won almost every round until he took off the last few, and he was still just as green as Bernard was, it took him like 5-6 rounds to even open up. Bernard couldn't deal with his speed or elusiveness. Which is the key point ,Roy wasn't just speed, he was as elusive as anyone, thats what him different in some ways from guys like Ali, Leonard, Michael Nunn, is that Roy was extremely hard to hit anywhere, while the other guys weren't quite as concerned about getting hit.
REwatch the bhop fight bro. It was far from easy.
I rewatched it and to my suprise, i actually have bhop winning this time!

even bhop said he lost that one
Which is what makes it so weird rofl.,
2 other people on here said they rewatched it aswell and actually had bernard by a point.
The fight was just so boring..but honestly.. it's worth a rewatch.
Fighters who don't get off like they want to in a fight or never get
in a rhythm or comfortable like Bernard clearly was the entire night, often times
wont dispute the decision if they lose...But he actually did pretty good dispite having
not perfected his craft yet.

During that time bernard was a "killer". He had a great body attack and would often times
stalk his opponent. He showed tremendous respect for Roys ability and did none of that in their fight. Obviously, Bernard is an entirely different fighter today.. which is why I never look at the Roy/Bhop fight as a huge win for Roy. If i beat on an infant today and he becomes a world champion in thirty years, does that make him a significant win for me?

Bhop was highly regarded and a great fighter at the time they fought, but he, imo, had no where near the knowledge of the game he has now. He's a much more dangerous adversary now and i actually have the fight alot closer after rewatching than I did before.