Y'all must o' forgot...

[Majesty]

he was doing to RJJ what RJJ used to do to everyone else: making them miss and making them look stupid.

Not really. It didn't take a shot fighter to make Roy look that way

[bambamdaddio]

Whatever the ifs and where fors Jones took the fight at this stage of his career in his own backyard and got pony knocked out of him .. and woulda done anytime he fought against JC..

[Greig]

Whatever the ifs and where fors Jones took the fight at this stage of his career in his own backyard and got pony knocked out of him .. and woulda done anytime he fought against JC..

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

[CFH]

Whatever the ifs and where fors Jones took the fight at this stage of his career in his own backyard and got pony knocked out of him .. and woulda done anytime he fought against JC..

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

I agree, though I do think at times JC would've made it a difficult fight for him. Not that that takes anything away from Calzaghe, he's undoubtedly a great fighter.

[Greig]

Whatever the ifs and where fors Jones took the fight at this stage of his career in his own backyard and got pony knocked out of him .. and woulda done anytime he fought against JC..

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

I agree, though I do think at times JC would've made it a difficult fight for him. Not that that takes anything away from Calzaghe, he's undoubtedly a great fighter.

Of course he is. I am a big fan of Calzaghe, he is an all time great.

But I honestly believe that RJJ in his prime was about the the third or fourth best fighter ever. SRR, Ali and Louis are better IMO.

HOWEVER, we'll never know that for sure because he should have been more proactive in securing legacy defining fights when he was in his prime.

[CFH]

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

I agree, though I do think at times JC would've made it a difficult fight for him. Not that that takes anything away from Calzaghe, he's undoubtedly a great fighter.

Of course he is. I am a big fan of Calzaghe, he is an all time great.

But I honestly believe that RJJ in his prime was about the the third or fourth best fighter ever. SRR, Ali and Louis are better IMO.

HOWEVER, we'll never know that for sure because he should have been more proactive in securing legacy defining fights when he was in his prime.

I'm not sure if I would consider Calzaghe an ATG. Skill-wise? Probably, but my initial thought is that I still find his level of competition to be below that of an ATG. I'd really have to think more about it to give a definate answer as to whether I'd consider him an ATG, but I would certainly consider him a great fighter.

[Greig]

I agree, though I do think at times JC would've made it a difficult fight for him. Not that that takes anything away from Calzaghe, he's undoubtedly a great fighter.

Of course he is. I am a big fan of Calzaghe, he is an all time great.

But I honestly believe that RJJ in his prime was about the the third or fourth best fighter ever. SRR, Ali and Louis are better IMO.

HOWEVER, we'll never know that for sure because he should have been more proactive in securing legacy defining fights when he was in his prime.

I'm not sure if I would consider Calzaghe an ATG. Skill-wise? Probably, but my initial thought is that I still find his level of competition to be below that of an ATG. I'd really have to think more about it to give a definate answer as to whether I'd consider him an ATG, but I would certainly consider him a great fighter.

I'd

He's an ATG because he reigned at SM for a decade, fought and beat two legends on American soil (both past their best IMO) and, if he's true to his word, will retire undefeated.

Pretty good resume.

[Taeth]

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

I agree, though I do think at times JC would've made it a difficult fight for him. Not that that takes anything away from Calzaghe, he's undoubtedly a great fighter.

Of course he is. I am a big fan of Calzaghe, he is an all time great.

But I honestly believe that RJJ in his prime was about the the third or fourth best fighter ever. SRR, Ali and Louis are better IMO.

HOWEVER, we'll never know that for sure because he should have been more proactive in securing legacy defining fights when he was in his prime.

I think Roy beats a lot of the top guys inthe p4p argument if they fought against eachother, but He didn't fight the type of names some of these guys did. I think if you are comparing primes he is a top 10 p4p, but being a great fighter means more than that. After this fight I definitely have Hopkins moving ahead of Roy on the p4p ATG list.

[Greig]

I agree, though I do think at times JC would've made it a difficult fight for him. Not that that takes anything away from Calzaghe, he's undoubtedly a great fighter.

Of course he is. I am a big fan of Calzaghe, he is an all time great.

But I honestly believe that RJJ in his prime was about the the third or fourth best fighter ever. SRR, Ali and Louis are better IMO.

HOWEVER, we'll never know that for sure because he should have been more proactive in securing legacy defining fights when he was in his prime.

I think Roy beats a lot of the top guys inthe p4p argument if they fought against eachother, but He didn't fight the type of names some of these guys did. I think if you are comparing primes he is a top 10 p4p, but being a great fighter means more than that. After this fight I definitely have Hopkins moving ahead of Roy on the p4p ATG list.

I must disagree Taeth.

For a start, Jones has a win over Hopkins.

Second, Jones won belts at 160, 168, 175 and heavyweight. B-Hop never did that.

Third, a lot of Hopkins biggest wins were against guys he had distinct size and weight advantages over (DLH, Winky, Pavlik). Lets not forget that at light heavyweight his resume consists of a shot Tarver and a bunch of guys moving up.

No, B-Hop is a great fighter, but Roy is greater IMO.

[Markusdarkus]

Whatever the ifs and where fors Jones took the fight at this stage of his career in his own backyard and got pony knocked out of him .. and woulda done anytime he fought against JC..

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

BAN!

[Greig]

Yeah, ban me

A past his best Chris Eubank (who admitted he was scared of Roy Jones) gave Calzaghe one of his toughest fights.

You can ban blokes for stating FACT.

[Snakey]

Yeah, ban me

A past his best Chris Eubank (who admitted he was scared of Roy Jones) gave Calzaghe one of his toughest fights.

You can ban blokes for stating FACT.

HAHAHA ban you....ban you, someone might just tell markus that guys that have been here longer then two seconds dont get banned that easily. Dickheads who have been hear for two seconds do

[CFH]

Whatever the ifs and where fors Jones took the fight at this stage of his career in his own backyard and got pony knocked out of him .. and woulda done anytime he fought against JC..

Incorrect. Jones Circa 1995-2000 knocks the living shit out of Joe.

BAN!

I can see one coming