Roy Jones Jr vs Joe Calzaghe A Disgraceful Fight.

[Markusdarkus]

I honestly couldn't watch it all, it was like i was watching a glorifed sparring session. And a dancing show all at once, first off RJJ's performance uhh where the hell was it ?

He would just throw single punches all the time, and just allow Joe Calzaghe too hold his hands down when he is 2 inches away from him. I was screaming at the screen just bloody hit him RJJ for goodness sake.

Joe Calzaghe was so wide open i can't believe RJJ didn't take those openings, and secondly all of Joe Calzaghes taunting was just ridiculous. It was like watching a clown in the ring, he done it in every round and in every minute of the round.

And the action was like a sparring session, RJJ would hit Joe Calzaghe with single punches every now and again. And then Joe Calzaghe would come wadding in landing mostly slapping punches to the body.

This may sound like sour grapes but im very disappointed, in both boxers. RJJ didn't even try to win the fight after the 1st round, and Joe Calzaghe's constant taunting dancing whatever you want to call it. Was just ridiculous to watch, this fight was not a good fight for boxing at all a disgrace IMO.

Cock.

Neg. rep for the fanboy response. How about addressing some of the seemingly valid points he made?

Was a great fight until the 6th. Then Roy was badly cut and beat up yet still fought. This goon said it was a sparring session?

Yes that comment is "Cock" worthy.

[CFH]

Cock.

Neg. rep for the fanboy response. How about addressing some of the seemingly valid points he made?

Was a great fight until the 6th. Then Roy was badly cut and beat up yet still fought. This goon said it was a sparring session?

Yes that comment is "Cock" worthy.

Now, without the childish insults, that's a somewhat justifiable position to have. I don't agree, I thought is was an ok fight initially, then I just found it depressing (no, I'm not a Jones fan, but Calzaghe was clearly beating up the shadow of what RJJ once was and his showboating was obnoxious and disrespectful).

[Dizaster]

I think a big aspect is that Jones doesn't have the style to carry on into his older years.. He relied on a killer instinct, explosive one punch 'knock your head off' blows, being pretty much unhittable (unless he was drawing a guy in to knock his head off). Without the killer instinct, the unhittableness. The knock your head off punches, he isn't left with anything at all to beat a half decent fighter that is even going to provide a decent amount of pressure... In his day though, his qualities made him an amazing fighter.. Almost like, a Mayweather defence, but if Mayweather could leap forward and knock guys out in 2 or 3 rounds, that was what Roy did, and why he was such a lovable fighter..
The qualities just havn't carried over through the years..

B-Hop's qualities have always been Nitty gritty, resourceful, frustrating, grind away at opponent - And you can see that it worked for him throughout his whole career, and even at an older age, he can still use all those qualities to keep him in fights with the P4P best guys out there...


I really wished Roy had done more in this fight and risked more.. It's hard to see the young Roy in this old version.. it's disheartening especially for a fan.. I myself am going to forget his last 5 or 6 years, and remember the glory days.. And count his latest performances on the fact he just didn't have the quality and style that was going to lend itself to fighting during older age.. But it was those qualities and style that made me love him as a fighter in the first place... So still got Love for Roy...

Just he should stay out of the ring now as I don't think anyone can see him pulling out a turning back the clock performance...

[Dizaster]

I also think it will be taking away from any fighter who tries to take a fight with Roy after this... He didn't put enough in past the first few rounds.. And any fighter that wants to make a fight with him and is prepared to use him as a punching bag on the ropes for 9 rounds, they should give it a miss and find a younger hungrier opponent.

[Rantcatrat]

Joe is a great fighter even if it was a shell of the prime RJJ, Calzaghe still schooled him. At the end of the match he gave Roy his due and was classy about it. Joe doesn't need to prove anything. You may not like his style, but what he does, he does best.

[awdleyfuturehalloffamer]

Calzaghe showboats when he's in the zone. When he's not in the zone he doesn't showboat. Calzaghe was using his showboating to dishearten a showboater.

[Spicoli]

Jones did what he could with what he had left at this point of career.It really is that simple and their is nothing disgraceful about it!!He displayed great heart.To have expected him to reinvent himself and deny his many years is asking the impossible.

[Kev]

Neg. rep for the fanboy response. How about addressing some of the seemingly valid points he made?

Was a great fight until the 6th. Then Roy was badly cut and beat up yet still fought. This goon said it was a sparring session?

Yes that comment is "Cock" worthy.

Now, without the childish insults, that's a somewhat justifiable position to have. I don't agree, I thought is was an ok fight initially, then I just found it depressing (no, I'm not a Jones fan, but Calzaghe was clearly beating up the shadow of what RJJ once was and his showboating was obnoxious and disrespectful).

Hey Josh, you know you're my boy but how was what Calzaghe was doing any less respectful than Jones when he did it?

Roy Jones entrire career in his prime is one long highlight of those kind of antics.

Calzaghe was making a point that he could outflash Roy Jones.

People arn't giving Calzaghe nearly enough credit for this win, not only did he beat Roy Jones, but he was faster, slicker, he outboxed him, he totally dominated him.

Yes he showboated and yes Jones was not in his prime but Jones did that to lesser fighters than him his whole career.

And watching Jones in this fight and his later career has got me wondering what would have happened if he would have fought a prime Calzaghe.

I really think Calzaghe has a stronger will than Roy Jones. In his prime Jones never got close to being hit and hurt, being stood up to. I think he might always have responded like this when faced with a beating. He's an amazing fighter no question one of the best ever, but he doesn't have, and has never had imo a true warrior's heart like Calzaghe has. Calzaghe would always have been a problem for him.

Last night's fight is a good example.

I guarantee if the roles were reversed and Calzaghe had been badly cut and was getting completely outboxed he wouldn't have sought to survive like Jones did. Taking nothing away from Jones he took a real beating and stood up to the end, but his mindset was to make it to the finish.

Calzaghe in the same situation I believe would have made it do or die and just gone toe to toe around the 6th or 7th round and either got knocked out or else turned the fight around.

He's a real warrior and is willing to go out on his shield in a way few other boxers are.

I mean he was clearly really rocked by Jones in the first round, I initially thought he might not make it out of the round.

But his instinct wasn't to cover up, to survive, even to be more careful and fight defensively, a reaction that virtually every other fighter would have.

Instead he did the exact opposite, he dropped his hands stuck his head through the guard of Jones, goaded him into hitting him again and then beat Jones at his own game, completely breaking Jones' will.

I know it wasn't a prime Roy Jones, but it doesn't change the fact that Calzaghe imposed himself physically and mentally on him and literally through his showboating and antics brokoe Jones spirit.

I thought it was an awesome performance from Calzaghe.

The knockdown in some ways enhances it almost becuase he responded from it so well. There is no self doubt in Calzaghe at all, none.

When Pavlik had trouble in the first two round against Hopkins he seemingly gave up and resigned himself to defeat. He had no will in him to try and wrest the fight away from Hopkins. It was like he suddenly bottled it realising he was fighting the great Bernard Hopkins.

But Calzaghe even from a worse start doesn't entertain doubt for an instant. When he got put down it just gives him an air of defiance. He came back and started goading Jones, dropping his hands and completely dominated him. This is a man who just does not know how to lose.

When you look at his career now I think he's as good as Marciano. He's got that ethic, he just won't quit.

[Tam Seddon]

If JC was that wide and had his chin so far open against Carl Froch he would have got KTFO !!!!!!!!!!

anyway, dissapointed RJJ was so shit, JC hopefully will face carl if he beats pascal

[Tysonbruno]

118-109 on all 3 score cards a complete joke why didn't Roy hit him when he was clowning about was beyond me i think Calzaghe was meant to win Roy never fought as though he wanted it really the fight was a joke and the scores were crazy.

[Preme]

118-109 on all 3 score cards a complete joke why didn't Roy hit him when he was clowning about was beyond me i think Calzaghe was meant to win Roy never fought as though he wanted it really the fight was a joke and the scores were crazy.

watch the fight again, he tried early to hit him when he dropped his hands and stuck his chin out, after missing 5 times he give up not wanting that to go through out the fight.

[ono]

Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.

Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.

Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'

The answer was no. Simple as.

They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.

[Bomp]

Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.

Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.

Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'

The answer was no. Simple as.

They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.

Exactly, Roy could do nothing more at his age. The fight was what it was, two aging greats where one had aged more than the other - and it NEVER was going to be anything else.

All last night showed is that we missed out on a possible brilliant match up which could have happened 2000-2003. Bilbo is spot on when he says that Joe would never give up and in that sense he genuinelly is a throwback, he wouldn't stand centr ring like a rabbit caught in headlights like Woods and all the other LHW defences. Roy would still be favourite but it would have been a hell of an entertaining fight against someone willing to put it all on the line.

The first round last night DID NOT prove that Roy would have schooled Joe in their primes (as some mentioned), and the subsequent 11 rounds DID NOT prove that Joe would have beaten Roy in their primes.

PS MarkusDarkus - stop being a TIT , last nights win is nothing to gloat about as it was to be expected, it didn't enhance Joe's career, it was only a payday. And in that regards ICE is right, it was a glorified sparring session, but in all honesty I don't think you could argue that it was ever advertised as anything different.

[Pugilistic]

I personally didn't like the fight all that much, It kind of reminded me of Ali - Holmes.

I knew Jones had no chance from the beginning.

Joe did well and got the win but overall the win isn't that impressive considering Jones is clearly been past it for about 4-5 years now.

I just wish the fight happened when both were in their primes.

[ICB]

Imo it was nowhere near as disgraceful as Jones - Trinidad. A fight designed to make Roy Jones good enough to get in the ring with Calzaghe.

Calzaghe - Jones 8 or so years ago would have been fantastically competitive.

Just accept that the excitement generated by last nights fight was purely 'has Jones got one last big performance in him'

The answer was no. Simple as.

They'll both go down as 2 of the best super-middleweights of all time. It's a shame their careers have come to an end. I'm more disappointed about that to be honest.

Ono i actually stopped watching the fight properly after about 10 rounds, thats never happened to me before. This fight was just total rubbish and a farce IMO.

It was like watching Muhammad Ali vs Larry Holmes, but it felt more like a circus to me as i've said already in a few threads.

Where was RJJ desire to give it one last shot ? and let it all hang out ? all he did was throw one punch at a time, and even when he might of stunned Joe Calzaghe. He never even went in for the kill, he has no killer instinct what so ever anymore.

And Joe Calzaghe's taunting was ridiculous, i don't mind some taunting in a fight. But he done it constantly and it just seemed like he was totally disrespecting a once great fighter RJJ. And what annoyed me more is RJJ let him do it, and never tried to counter Joe Calzaghe who was wide open and very hittable.

Im very disappointed i stayed up all that time, had my friends over and my girl. I was rooting for RJJ all the way even though i felt Joe Calzaghe was the favorite obviously.

And i get rewarded with a garbage fight like this, i knew RJJ was shot but i thought he would atleast try to win. But all he was there for was the paycheck which was obvious.

It felt like some freak exhibition fight to me Ono, very disappointing and sad for us fans.