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    Default Re: How Do You Rank Jones, Calzaghe, and Hopkins ATGreatness As Of Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post

    Actually, I will downplay Roy's accomplishment, because his 'accomplishments' are the only thing preventing me from ranking him #1. Accomplishments are not what 'would' someone do, it's what 'did' someone do. It's like saying how would Jack Dempsey do if he fought Tony Tucker, (he'd probably lose), however Dempsey ranks higher because of what he 'did.' No one's saying Roy's competition is sh!t, we're saying both he and Joe's level of competition is far below B-Hop's, and therefore it's frivolous to compare two things that are subpar to begin with. Also, since when did we start giving ATG's credit for beating people who merely 'aren't pushovers?' I thought the whole point of this was pointing out career highlights, not career fillers.
    Where in my post did I say I give credit to people for something they haven't done? You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    I said Ruiz was no pushover AT HEAVYWEIGHT. So for someone to come up 2 weight divisions and and beat a SOLID fighter 40-50lbs bigger than him is absolutely incredible. If you can't see that then you have absolutely NO boxing knowledge whatsoever.

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    Default Re: How Do You Rank Jones, Calzaghe, and Hopkins ATGreatness As Of Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by match View Post

    Actually, I will downplay Roy's accomplishment, because his 'accomplishments' are the only thing preventing me from ranking him #1. Accomplishments are not what 'would' someone do, it's what 'did' someone do. It's like saying how would Jack Dempsey do if he fought Tony Tucker, (he'd probably lose), however Dempsey ranks higher because of what he 'did.' No one's saying Roy's competition is sh!t, we're saying both he and Joe's level of competition is far below B-Hop's, and therefore it's frivolous to compare two things that are subpar to begin with. Also, since when did we start giving ATG's credit for beating people who merely 'aren't pushovers?' I thought the whole point of this was pointing out career highlights, not career fillers.
    Where in my post did I say I give credit to people for something they haven't done? You need to work on your reading comprehension.

    I said Ruiz was no pushover AT HEAVYWEIGHT. So for someone to come up 2 weight divisions and and beat a SOLID fighter 40-50lbs bigger than him is absolutely incredible. If you can't see that then you have absolutely NO boxing knowledge whatsoever.
    Actually, you're the one who should get hooked on phonics. You just asked 'How would Calzaghe have done if he would have fought.....' And instead of trying to hurl immature insults at someone for merely disagreeing with you, ask yourself why NO ONE brings up Leonard's win over Donny Lalonde when speaking of his accomplishments. Because to most, it really doesn't matter how high you move up if you aren't willing to do so to face a great fighter.

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