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There's nothing wrong with Calzaghe's win over Hopkins. Hopkins showed top form before the loss and even better after. Roy beat Hopkins fair and square too.

So Hopkins is definitely 3rd.

1. Roy
2. Calzaghe
3. Hopkins
No he didn't lol people are gettin way to hyped up on the Pavlik win, Bernard would have taken him out in the middle rounds in his prime. He looked horrid against Winky Wright before Calzaghe, adn they fought a super close fight. When there is a 7 year age factor I think it is very relevant, all in all I think Hopkins because I thought he beat Calzaghe, and would have beaten Calzaghe in their prime deserves the nod for being the best ATG, then Roy just because in his prime he was the best, and then Calzaghe or Toney.
People forget that Toney won the cruiserweight title, and almost the heavyweight title but he was on steriods for an arm injury. He deserved that title from Ruiz IMO. Toney has had just a long and fulfilled career full of great opponents and great fights that he deserves to be in the running with any of these guys even if Roy outclassed him.
No he didn't lol.. what?

Hopkins-Winky was always going to be a shit fight. The important part is Hopkins beat him.

Tarver = Won.
Winky = Won.
Calzaghe = Lost.
Pavlik = Won.

These are facts.

You can't praise Hopkins for beating these guys, through this period of his career, then discredit Calzaghe for beating Hopkins.

That is totally flawed and inconsistent.