As of right now, who could beat Calzaghe?

[RP33]

I'm asking this question because i'm not as familiar with the LHW's and SMW's from other continents as many of you guys are..

These are my thoughts..

I hear a lot of people (including myself) talk about Calzaghe's resume being weak in his prime.. and the defense to that is that there was no one out there to fight him, and if there were fighters that were on his level, they avoided him.. So this is the reason why he is lacking in quality opposition on his resume..

and now, he has Hopkins and RJJ to add to his resume, which obviously looks great on anyones resume, but to the fans of today, what does this really mean to us?

I'll be the first one to say that i am begging for Calzaghe's first loss, but i dont' doubt his skills as a fighter.. and i've said before that mainly i dislike him because he didn't put his skills to good use by taking fights like Bika and Manfredo..

So we have Hopkins, who comes into the fight and knocks joe down in the first round, sets the tempo for the next few roudns, and then just doesn't do any work or throw punches in a fight that was an SD and he could've won if he was throwing.. Same with RJJ who knocked him down in the first round and then just decided not to throw the rest of the fight.. Is joe THAT good that his opponents cannot throw in fear of missing and be countered? Jones and Hopkins are two fighters of large boxing IQ, and i don't see how they did not figure him out.. To be honest, i've never been more dissapointed in two fights, than these two.. They both bored me to death, not because of the pace, but to the lack of heart on the 43 yr old and 39 yr old fighters.. I'd love to see someone with a lot of heart in there, like Lacy had, and just fight all 3 minutes of every round and THROW PUNCHES..

Does anyone else feel this way?

and if so, who, right now, if Joe doesn't retire, ACTUALLY has a chance of getting a fight signed with Joe and having a chance (not a hopkins or RJJ "because 10 years ago they were great fighters" chance) but an actual chance of beating Joe?

[BIG H]

All I'll say is mate, if you don't like Calzaghe for his oppostion, check out who Jones fought throughout his reign at SMW and LHW And check out who B-Hop fought through 10 years as MW champion and tell me you like them because of their opposition

[bambamdaddio]

All I'll say is mate, if you don't like Calzaghe for his oppostion, check out who Jones fought throughout his reign at SMW and LHW And check out who B-Hop fought through 10 years as MW champion and tell me you like them because of their opposition

Well said fella..

[The Rela]

No-one imo.

Hopkins would probably have the better chance, but he's tried before and narrowly failed.

Calzaghe would destroy pavlik, Froch and Dawson imo.

[El Kabong]

Chad Dawson, Glen Johnson, Tavoris Cloud, Kelly Pavlik

People will hate on me for saying it but Jermain Taylor...say what you will about him, he's a fighter and will give it all he has. He fought a much better fight vs Pavlik at the 166 catch weight and I figure he can add weight without hurting his ability unlike Pavlik. Taylor was ready to move up before he fought Kelly the first time IMO.

Cloud and Dawson are young but Dawson is a good boxer and Cloud has huge power and since Joe has been down in the first round in his last two fights, I figure a guy with solid power at 175 would have a shot vs him.

Johnson is an old guy but he's a war horse, he can take punishment and keep pounding away.

After Pavlik's performance against Hopkins I wouldn't put him in with ANYONE at 168 but if he is able to train up to that weight properly then I figure he'd give Joe all he could handle

[holmcall]

Chad Dawson, Glen Johnson, Tavoris Cloud, Kelly Pavlik

People will hate on me for saying it but Jermain Taylor...say what you will about him, he's a fighter and will give it all he has. He fought a much better fight vs Pavlik at the 166 catch weight and I figure he can add weight without hurting his ability unlike Pavlik. Taylor was ready to move up before he fought Kelly the first time IMO.

Cloud and Dawson are young but Dawson is a good boxer and Cloud has huge power and since Joe has been down in the first round in his last two fights, I figure a guy with solid power at 175 would have a shot vs him.

Johnson is an old guy but he's a war horse, he can take punishment and keep pounding away.

After Pavlik's performance against Hopkins I wouldn't put him in with ANYONE at 168

No hate from me. If Taylor blows away Lacey, he is right back in the mix. I would not count him out by a long shot.

[ross]

Looking at it like that, yuod have to say that Joe is the closest thing right now to an unbeatable boxer!!

Peopple say Dawson purely because hes the only decent opposition that is unbeaten.

Until Froch proves himself against Kessler I wish people would stop giving him undue publicity

[holmcall]

No one; absolutley no one. Pavlik's style is made to order for him and Dawson cannot sustain the pace that JC keeps. No one!

[GAME]

NOBODY!

Joe Calzaghe pound for pound the best around!!





Toying with Boxing Legends!

[Fenster]

NOBODY!

Joe Calzaghe pound for pound the best around!!





Toying with Boxing Legends!

That was some class dodging

[Taeth]

All I'll say is mate, if you don't like Calzaghe for his oppostion, check out who Jones fought throughout his reign at SMW and LHW And check out who B-Hop fought through 10 years as MW champion and tell me you like them because of their opposition

Um Roy had a way better resume

James Toney, Mike McCallum, Virgill Hill, Montell Griffin, Eric Harding, Reggie Johnson, Julio Gonzalez, Merqui Sosa, Tony Thompson, Clinton Woods.. the list goes on of solid opposiiton Jones fought. Calzaghe beats everybody except maybe James Toney on that list, but not like Roy did.

[Taeth]

Kelly Pavlik if he can hit Calzaghe, he hits way harder then Hopkins or Jones at this point in their career, I think he has the power to take Calzaghe out, but Calzaghe is way faster and I can't see Pavlik winning this unless he is capable of landing shots.

Glen Johnson: I think he is the best bet, he has the best chin around this weight division, he can match Calzaghe's output, he has that same will to walk through anything, and he hits harder then Calzaghe.

Chad Dawson: I am guessing Calzaghe might impose his will on Chad Dawson, but Chad held up well against Glen Johnson who puts the same kind of pressure on you, but hits harder then Calzaghe, and is much better body puncher. I think Chad Dawson has the speed edge, he's bigger then Calzaghe, and he's got a high output. I think its a good matchup.

[GAME]

Nah Johnson has nowhere near the output of Joe. Antonio Tarver outlasted Johnson last time they met and Tarver is one of teh oldest most lazy fighters Ive seen.

[ICB]

Chad Dawson
Tavoris Cloud

[Rantcatrat]

Kelly Pavlik if he can hit Calzaghe, he hits way harder then Hopkins or Jones at this point in their career, I think he has the power to take Calzaghe out, but Calzaghe is way faster and I can't see Pavlik winning this unless he is capable of landing shots.

Glen Johnson: I think he is the best bet, he has the best chin around this weight division, he can match Calzaghe's output, he has that same will to walk through anything, and he hits harder then Calzaghe.

Chad Dawson: I am guessing Calzaghe might impose his will on Chad Dawson, but Chad held up well against Glen Johnson who puts the same kind of pressure on you, but hits harder then Calzaghe, and is much better body puncher. I think Chad Dawson has the speed edge, he's bigger then Calzaghe, and he's got a high output. I think its a good matchup.

Cosign on this post.

There may not be someone out there who could beat Joe Calzaghe, but if so it would be either Glen Johnson or Chad Dawson.